Firewood catfish

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Rtc/tsn said:
I have plans for a pioneer type pond if that’s not possible then I’ll just buy a 100$ pond insert and put bricks or wood stakes around it and obviously filtration but if money goes good then I’m hoping to have something like this View attachment 1459748
I know 125 won’t be big enough to house bullseye forever but it’ll give me long enough to work on the build and finish it and no it’s not gonna be me alone working on it I’ve already talked to friends about it

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Another option that may be a lot easier is going to tractor supply and getting a Rubbermaid "stock tank", they have a 300 gallon one for $250 but you can sometimes get them a lot cheaper on craigslist, I have seen a lot of people use this as a solution for big fish and if you got one of them it would certainly give you a year or two. I'm sure you can find some more information on them by searching the forum.
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FuriousFish said:
Another option that may be a lot easier is going to tractor supply and getting a Rubbermaid "stock tank", they have a 300 gallon one for $250 but you can sometimes get them a lot cheaper on craigslist, I have seen a lot of people use this as a solution for big fish and if you got one of them it would certainly give you a year or two. I'm sure you can find some more information on them by searching the forum.
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Thank you and yea I’ve been researching a lot the last month about this but it’s definitely gonna be something like that more than likely
 
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planiceps are known to be aggressive towards big cats at their adult size.. there hard to keep in a community setting. once they reach 3 foot they seem to get very territorial & start to ram tank mates etc. If you don't have a 1000g+ currently or can't get anything close to that I wouldn't bother. there not a cheap fish by any means & the pond, food, & water change cost for a fish of that caliber is something to think about.
 
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I think what people are kind of looking at is the fact that in a few months when you CAN get a pond your fish probably won't be alive. Because of the tank size now all of your fish will be way to big within a month. Especially bullseye and your aro. So you have to make an action ASAP whether thats a bigger tank,pond or give most fish away if not all. Most people here if not all support young minds like myself and other kids we got running around here, because we all need to learn. Best of luck.
 
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Planiceps / firewood appear extremely hard to raise to adulthood and keep a long time properly in captivity.

They grow far bigger than TSNxRTC hybrid, like 2x longer, need 10x more space to swim or otherwise run into walls and break their snout. Their metabolism is 10x faster than the hybrids, requiring 10x more feed. And as mentioned above, they can be aggressive to tank mates.

I am not all knowing and IDK anyone who has raised one to adulthood and has had it a long time, like 5-10 years at least. There is a peer in Sweden or Norway with three planiceps in a large tank like 20,000 gal (?) and all three have a snout that's bent.
 
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thebiggerthebetter said:
Planiceps / firewood appear extremely hard to raise to adulthood and keep a long time properly in captivity.

They grow far bigger than TSNxRTC hybrid, like 2x longer, need 10x more space to swim or otherwise run into walls and break their snout. Their metabolism is 10x faster than the hybrids, requiring 10x more feed. And as mentioned above, they can be aggressive to tank mates.

I am not all knowing and IDK anyone who has raised one to adulthood and has had it a long time, like 5-10 years at least. There is a peer in Sweden or Norway with three planiceps in a large tank like 20,000 gal (?) and all three have a snout that's bent.
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Thank you for saying this I think I’ll be better off looking at videos online of firewood cats I definitely couldn’t keep up with him
 
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thebiggerthebetter said:
Planiceps / firewood appear extremely hard to raise to adulthood and keep a long time properly in captivity.

They grow far bigger than TSNxRTC hybrid, like 2x longer, need 10x more space to swim or otherwise run into walls and break their snout. Their metabolism is 10x faster than the hybrids, requiring 10x more feed. And as mentioned above, they can be aggressive to tank mates.

I am not all knowing and IDK anyone who has raised one to adulthood and has had it a long time, like 5-10 years at least. There is a peer in Sweden or Norway with three planiceps in a large tank like 20,000 gal (?) and all three have a snout that's bent.
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I'm interested in seeing the ones in the 20,000 gallon, any links?

I'm also curious as to your mention of their size, I don't have much experience with giant catfish (and 0 experience with firewoods) but if I recall correctly the hybrids can grow to around 40 inches realistically in aquariums and I also recall people mentioning "hybrid vigor" saying they get larger... Just going by google searches I don't see any firewoods that are much longer than a hybrid could get and they seem overall a lot skinnier of a fish, is there something I am missing?
 
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I'm interested in seeing the ones in the 20,000 gallon, any links?
***I remember seeing the visuals but can't quickly find the links, not here nor on YT. Here is a relevant piece, not it. It's been reported by Tobiassorensen Tobiassorensen . Maybe he will chime in. I am pretty sure the peer is in Norway. Tobias is in Sweden. Seems the size is 20K liter, not gal. https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/...allons-8150-liters.716804/page-3#post-8093547

I'm also curious
*That's right. You should consider changing to CuriousFish :)

as to your mention of their size, I don't have much experience with giant catfish (and 0 experience with firewoods) but if I recall correctly the hybrids can grow to around 40 inches realistically in aquariums
***Sure. Ours is 3.5 feet currently at 7 yo.

and I also recall people mentioning "hybrid vigor" saying they get larger...
***I (we?) know this only on paper because we don't get our hands on "good" TSNxRTC hybrids. Instead we get genetic junk from SA farms where they are farmed for food and from SE Asia where they are raised exceedingly cheaply for ornamental fish trade. Be that as it may, IME the hybrids we get in our trade do NOT exceed growth rate of the parents, NOR exceed the size of their paternal parent, the RTC.

Just going by google searches I don't see any firewoods that are much longer than a hybrid could get and they seem overall a lot skinnier of a fish...
***Wild (yes, not in captivity, I grant you that) planiceps grows to 150-200 cm / 5ft to 6.5ft according to the FishBase and the Fishing records (e.g., fishing world records website catalog, 16-50 kg, 145-200 cm). When talking about housing req's, what matters most is the fish length, hence I was speaking about the length specifically.

HTH.

Let us know if your homework discovers more or different info and feel free to ask more q's, needless to say. I love and appreciate to be corrected, schooled, and educated at the expense and the work of peers.
 
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