gill curl problem =(

Freke

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I realy need help from you guys. One of my RTG is getting gill curl. Or i think it is :irked: Is the one cure to cut of the curled part or is there any other way to sort it? Ive been searching here for gill curl and saw that some guy was talking about high flow rate on the water.. Does this help?? And what is high flow rate? I realy dont want to cut my fish unless there is no other way..

And to prevent my other aros from getting this do i wonder what cause it?
I got 4 asian and 1 silver and they are all eating well, swiming well. There is no fighting att all in the tank and the only tank m8 is 3 silver dollar and 1 gibicep.

The water temp has been high lately since its soo damn hot out side. Water is normaly 25-26 celsius but now 28-30. Its never been more then 30.0 celsius since i change the water like every 3 day with cold tap water so its down to like 28. I change like 300l every time

So plz help my aro form lookin disabled. I feel sry for him even tho it looks like hes feeling like a king as he his ;)
 

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what are your water params
and what is the water change schedule
what kind of filters are there
 

Freke

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its a 380g tank i normalý change the water once a week. But as i said its been like every 3 days now to get the temp down. I havnt tested for nitrate for a long time. I use 2xFX5 and 2x fluval 104 that im planing to use for UVC.
 

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hmmmm
usually bad water quality is what brings out gill curl to aros
if it is really early then regular water changes will help getting rid of gill curl but if it is too advanced gill curl will not go and you might have to perform surgery
post up a pic someone who has already gone thru this might be able to guide you well
 

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High nitrates cause gill curling. Google Arowana gill curling for more info.
 

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Oki i finaly bought a new cam. So i got a real SRL cam now Sony A300 problem is i have no idea how to use it. But here is some pics of the problem









The thing is im going away for another 2 weeks now. Can i wait untill i get home before i cut the gills??

And i did a nitrate test and it was 0 like always. And they got lots of swiming space so it cant be that, that cause it
 

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I got this info from AROFANATICS ive never done this but it may work for your aro since its still in the early stage.



CURING GILL CURLS:

this method of curing gill curls with NO medication or operation should be credited to the shifu who has taught me this many years ago back in the US of A... he told me it was a well-guarded secret among pros. when clients bring in their aros (yes, the shifu was a LFS owner),this is the method the shifu would charge a fee for, in curing or straightening the afflicted gills. i had to bribe him w/ God knows how many HaiNan Chicken Rice before he let me in on the secret but you'll get it here for free!

i was very persistent in learning the secret method becoz many of my aros were afflicted with gill curls back then. this is due to poor water condition in the States; improper water management; using activated carbon and not changing them on time, etc. a more simple & responsible way of explanation is becoz i was inexperience and ignorant! so what causes gill curls? many factors but water quality is paramount reason. i won't go into too much on the cause of gill curls becoz this thread is about the 'solution' to curing gill curls. if however you keep your water parameter in check and consistent, you'll pretty much will never have to use the 'solution'!

prior to learning the method, i've done 2 or 3 operations of using X-acto knife & scissors to cut off the curled gill membranes. they grow back out but never like the original. using the following non-cutting method the gills will healed to almost a case of non-incidence. the method however will only work for aros with gill curl in the early stage. what's consider early stage? that's when the curl has only afflicted the soft membrane of the gill and has not yet gone to the hard plate portion of the gill. if it has gone to the hard plate, this solution may not be applicable.

Procedure

1. age new water (70-80% of tank's volume) this is the amount of old water you take out and need to be replaced after completing "operation". the new water is the means to correct the poor water condition which had caused the gill curls, but changes should not be drastic. i.e. old water temp 30 then new water temp should also be around 30, etc.

2. the water level now should be just high enough for the aro to swim in comfortably but not high enough for it to make a high leap. make sure you have clean hands and then put one hand in the water to let your aro feel comfortable about your presence.

3. gently, i stress GENTLY, but firmly chase after the aro with your hand to make it swim back & forth the length of the aquarium without scaring or frightening it.

4. continue the chasing process until the aro is completely exhausted. you will know this when it starts to swim unevenly, losing its equilibrium, allowing you to touch it without a fight. it may even lie on its side... don't fret, it's only temporary. it is now ready for the next step.

5. you may or may not need both hands for this part, depending on the size of your aro. grasp the aro firmly and start to massage the curled gill membrane with your thumb or whichever finger you feel comfortable.

6. keep on massaging the curled membrane until the soft part has begun to turn completely flimsy. no predetermined amt of time becoz size & condition of each aro is different, just have to observe carefully.

7. refill new water into tank. fill it slower if new water parameter is very different from the tank's water. keep an airstone with heavier than usual aeration until fish comes around to it.

8. add a powerhead if u don't already have one. the gill membrane in its healing phase look dark & almost deteriated, but it will grow back nicely.

This method may not work if what caused the gill curl in the 1st place has not been corrected. for me, i've sucessfully done 4 operations using this method. 2 on my aros and 2 for friends. i've also used step 3 & 4 above for other operations such as plucking a couple of bad scales, removing anchor worms, and trimming broken fins.

all info here are expressed for educational and discussion purposes. i do not recommend newbies or the faint-hearted to conduct the aforementioned.

cheers!
 

ThrobbingKneeRodney

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Dude I'm in the same boat as you.. Both sides of my jardini arowana look just like that last pic you posted.. I read about 2 anesthetics that may work.. One if you use too much may even be used as a euthanization tool.

I will post my pics in a little while when I find the time between my job and studying. My jar's gills are probably a bit worse off than yours and it looks like its the time for me to start ordering something so he doesn't feel the pain of me cutting... It totally sucks... I really need a better water supplier also or if my tank is even cycling... Hmmm I'm going to mod a few things... I do plan on making my own sump for my tank.

Also my tank is 125 gallons with just the jar in there. I just started adding cycle starter again to see if the bacterial can somehow slow the curl down. It use to only be bad on his right side but now its about evening out... And I switched to R O water from wal mart and I believe their water isn't even that good. It could still contain ammonia...

Can ammonia cause curling?...
 

ThrobbingKneeRodney

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Several week old photos... I'll come with an update when I find the time...Dang water...I really think my sump would help ALOT right now if I had one!!! I'm just so busy..:cry:... college, who needs it?!



I feel bad for you man... RTG!!!! I still love my jar tho as much so I feel some of your pain depending on how much you got him for and everything... I hate when I talk about my fish like property must be the sunnies I ate earlier talking.
 
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