Glass Thickness for New Aquarium.

[Addi_13]

Hello Guys,

Thank you everyone for the support and suggestions. The tank was ready last month but haven't got time since to upload and share pictures. Finally guys here it is. 272 US Gallons with 80 Gallon Sump with 1600 gph pump. Front is 19mm starphire glass, rest are 15mm glass. I still have to aquascape it, going to buy some more sand and add few driftwoods. The back blue poster teared apart so now its whitish background. I have installed colour changing lights too and the top is covered with acrylic sheet.

I am not adding any more fishes as I am going to add a Dovii after 6 months which I am raising in 60 gallons. I will instead remove fishes after adding him. How much water change I should do per week as I have fully loaded sump with bio balls, ceramic rings, activated carbon, dishwashing wipes, I have space for refugium too in sump and I am planning to add Java moss and Anubias Long Leaf as I want to add plants which uses no substrate and I can keep the refugium barebottom. Are those plants good if not then which plants I can add to reduce Nitrate? Please give suggestions and tell me if you like the New setup.

Regards,
Additya

 

[Addi_13]

Someone please help..

 

[DN328]

I think folks can only recommend what we think. If it was me, I would monitor the water parameters frequently as it's a new tank. How quickly NO3 rises will dictate the frequency and volume of water.

I do think various anubias and other species of plants will help. There are others here that can provide you with more specifics in terms of plants.

I still recommend keeping track of your water parameters to determine your water change routine. This may change based on growth and feeding routine too.

 

[Addi_13]

I think folks can only recommend what we think. If it was me, I would monitor the water parameters frequently as it's a new tank. How quickly NO3 rises will dictate the frequency and volume of water.

I do think various anubias and other species of plants will help. There are others here that can provide you with more specifics in terms of plants.

I still recommend keeping track of your water parameters to determine your water change routine. This may change based on growth and feeding routine too.

DN,

I need your help. My oldest fish (3 years) in the aquarium which was shortbody flowerhorn died next day after I did 50 % water change in new tank, he got finrot then went upsidedown and died. After that few days later my 15 inch pleco died. Now I see other fishes have fins burns or faded fins which looks terrible. So I bought the API test kit and checked the parameters.

My Ph is 7.6, Ammonia is 0, Nitrite is 0, Nitrates are around 40-80, not sure about the colour. I do have a very well oxygenated tank, very well circulated. My tank is 1 month, 14 days old and I dont know if its cycled. I have sand as substrate which I wasted multiple times before putting inside the tank. In sump I have 10 ceramic rings, 10 activated carbon, dishwashing wipes, Purigen, zeolite, bio balls, I also added Anubias longleaf and java fern plants last week.

Before last water change I never used to put dechlorinzer in the tank as I thought it was irrelevant but now I am using sodium thiosulfate, also I find it impossible to syphon the sand as the tank is bit tall for me. For this I have two strong wavemaker which mostly makes the debris flow in the sump, which gets in the pads which I clean every week. Now even after water changes fishes are dying slow painful death. Please help me save my stock.

Regards,
Additya

 

[Drstrangelove]

DN,

I need your help. My oldest fish (3 years) in the aquarium which was shortbody flowerhorn died next day after I did 50 % water change in new tank, he got finrot then went upsidedown and died. After that few days later my 15 inch pleco died. Now I see other fishes have fins burns or faded fins which looks terrible. So I bought the API test kit and checked the parameters.

My Ph is 7.6, Ammonia is 0, Nitrite is 0, Nitrates are around 40-80, not sure about the colour. I do have a very well oxygenated tank, very well circulated. My tank is 1 month, 14 days old and I dont know if its cycled. I have sand as substrate which I wasted multiple times before putting inside the tank. In sump I have 10 ceramic rings, 10 activated carbon, dishwashing wipes, Purigen, zeolite, bio balls, I also added Anubias longleaf and java fern plants last week.

Before last water change I never used to put dechlorinzer in the tank as I thought it was irrelevant but now I am using sodium thiosulfate, also I find it impossible to syphon the sand as the tank is bit tall for me. For this I have two strong wavemaker which mostly makes the debris flow in the sump, which gets in the pads which I clean every week. Now even after water changes fishes are dying slow painful death. Please help me save my stock.

Regards,
Additya

First, you should post in the disease forum where this will be more easily seen.

Second, this post confuses me. You have said very little that actually provides a time frame.

The tank has been running with water for how long? (44 days? Less?)
What did you do to build BB between adding the water and adding the fish?
Why did you think the tank was cycled? (Readings?)
When did you add fish?
When did the fish die?
When did you see the fish burns?
When did you start using dechlorinator?
How much water did you change before you got the 0/0/80 reading?
What are the nitrate readings on your tap water?

Third, tbh, I'm a bit skeptical of the readings. It sounds like you have an uncycled tank based on no dechlorinator, fish deaths, fish burns, new tank. But the nitrates indicates a cycling has occurred.

If I had to guess, given the lack of a time frame, it would be that your fish died as a result of ammonia/nitrite poisoning that happened a little while ago, while the others are still suffering from burns. I'd also guess that the nitrate buildup was long after the burns, and since you still have very high nitrates (80 is high), even after water changes, that your nitrates are high because you do WC that are too small and too infrequent.

It's also possible you have a faulty reading. Nitrate readings are notoriously inaccurate and commonplace unless the instructions are followed precisely and the test unexpired. A reading of zero nitrates would be more consistent, but again, I could conjecture that your tank began cycling about a week ago, after the damage had been done.

These are guesses.

 

[Addi_13]

First, you should post in the disease forum where this will be more easily seen.

Second, this post confuses me. You have said very little that actually provides a time frame. The tank has been running with water for how long? When did you add fish? When did the fish die? When did you see the fish burns? When did you start using dechlorinator? How much water did you change before you got the 0/0/80 reading? What are the nitrate readings on your tap water?

Third, tbh, I'm skeptical of the readings. It sounds like you have an uncycled tank based on no dechlorinator, fish deaths, fish burns, new tank. But the nitrates indicates a cycling has occurred.

If I had to guess, given the lack of a time frame, it would be that your fish died as a result of ammonia/nitrite poisoning that happened a little while ago, while the others are still suffering from burns. I'd also guess that the nitrate buildup was long after the burns, and since you still have very high nitrates (80 is high), even after water changes, that your nitrates are high because you do WC that are too small and too infrequent.

It's also possible you have a faulty reading. Nitrate readings are notoriously inaccurate and commonplace unless the instructions are followed precisely and the test unexpired. A reading of zero nitrates would be more consistent, but again, I could conjecture that your tank began cycling about a week ago, after the damage had been done.

These are guesses.

Hello bro,

Yes I am going to make a completely new post and post in emergency section of the website by tomorrow, I am panicked so posted in hurry. The tank was completed on 25th April 2017, I filled it with water on 26th April 17 and added the fishes on same day from my 125 gallon aquarium, I also added 90% water from 125 gallon to the new aquarium plus also used its media in the canister filter like purigen, carbon, ceramic rings in the new sump. The new sump filter is almost 80 Gallon. I have done 3-4 water changes since I got the aquarium. The first two were 30% only. I have blood parrots in tank too, around 15th May I saw sickness symptoms in one of my blood parrot as it was always swimming on top and wasn't so active (its still alive and still on top near one corner) then I saw burned fins on two of my oscars, jaguar cichlids, redtail shark around 20 May which are visible till now and still prominant. All fish are bit sluggish now.

Then I did big water change around 50% on 31st May and the shortbody flowerhorn was very active and perfect that day but suddenly on 1st June it started swimming upside down and its fins were rotting (its shocking because this happened in matter of one night and he was perfectly fine and active). I tried treating him in hospital tank, he survived for few days then he passed away, Its sad as he was my oldest fish and fully grown. I raised him since he was 2 inch old, he had a big hump and was very colourful. Then on 3rd June perfect looking 15 inch pleco died which I bought from LFS around 28th May 2017, its weird as he was so active too and almost fully grown. I did around 30% water change on 3rd May 2017 and added dechlorinator for first time since the tank started which was 2 scoop of Seachem Prime and half bottle of another dechlorinator.

I tested my water parameters for the first time today on 8th May, last water change was on 3rd May which was 30%. I use tap water in my aquarium which have 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrate and 0 Nitrates. The Ph of Tap water is around 7.6. I am thinking of doing 70-80% water change tomorrow, including sump water. I have added some plants in sump on 6th may but those are not big enough yet. how can i reduce Nitrates in fish tank, are Nitrates burning fish fins? Please tell me what caused this and what can should I do now. Please help and guide me, Please save my fishes.

Regards,
Additya

 

[Addi_13]

Hello bro,

Yes I am going to make a completely new post and post in emergency section of the website by tomorrow, I am panicked so posted in hurry. The tank was completed on 25th April 2017, I filled it with water on 26th April 17 and added the fishes on same day from my 125 gallon aquarium, I also added 90% water from 125 gallon to the new aquarium plus also used its media in the canister filter like purigen, carbon, ceramic rings in the new sump. The new sump filter is almost 80 Gallon. I have done 3-4 water changes since I got the aquarium. The first two were 30% only. I have blood parrots in tank too, around 15th May I saw sickness symptoms in one of my blood parrot as it was always swimming on top and wasn't so active (its still alive and still on top near one corner) then I saw burned fins on two of my oscars, jaguar cichlids, redtail shark around 20 May which are visible till now and still prominant. All fish are bit sluggish now.

Then I did big water change around 50% on 31st May and the shortbody flowerhorn was very active and perfect that day but suddenly on 1st June it started swimming upside down and its fins were rotting (its shocking because this happened in matter of one night and he was perfectly fine and active). I tried treating him in hospital tank, he survived for few days then he passed away, Its sad as he was my oldest fish and fully grown. I raised him since he was 2 inch old, he had a big hump and was very colourful. Then on 3rd June perfect looking 15 inch pleco died which I bought from LFS around 28th May 2017, its weird as he was so active too and almost fully grown. I did around 30% water change on 3rd May 2017 and added dechlorinator for first time since the tank started which was 2 scoop of Seachem Prime and half bottle of another dechlorinator.

I tested my water parameters for the first time today on 8th May, last water change was on 3rd May which was 30%. I use tap water in my aquarium which have 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrate and 0 Nitrates. The Ph of Tap water is around 7.6. I am thinking of doing 70-80% water change tomorrow, including sump water. I have added some plants in sump on 6th may but those are not big enough yet. how can i reduce Nitrates in fish tank, are Nitrates burning fish fins? Please tell me what caused this and what can should I do now. Please help and guide me, Please save my fishes.

Regards,
Additya

Hello bro,

Yes I am going to make a completely new post and post in emergency section of the website by tomorrow, I am panicked so posted in hurry. The tank was completed on 25th April 2017, I filled it with water on 26th April 17 and added the fishes on same day from my 125 gallon aquarium, I also added 90% water from 125 gallon to the new aquarium plus also used its media in the canister filter like purigen, carbon, ceramic rings in the new sump. The new sump filter is almost 80 Gallon. I have done 3-4 water changes since I got the aquarium. The first two were 30% only. I have blood parrots in tank too, around 15th May I saw sickness symptoms in one of my blood parrot as it was always swimming on top and wasn't so active (its still alive and still on top near one corner) then I saw burned fins on two of my oscars, jaguar cichlids, redtail shark around 20 May which are visible till now and still prominant. All fish are bit sluggish now.

Then I did big water change around 50% on 31st May and the shortbody flowerhorn was very active and perfect that day but suddenly on 1st June morning it started swimming upside down and its fins were rotting (its shocking because this happened in matter of one night and he was perfectly fine and active). I tried treating him in hospital tank, he survived for few days then he passed away, Its sad as he was my oldest fish and fully grown, I raised him since he was 2 inch old, he had a big hump and was very colourful. How can a healthy, active fish die due to 50% water change? Please tell me?

Then on 3rd June perfect looking 15 inch pleco died which I bought from LFS around 28th May 2017, its weird as he was so active too and almost fully grown. I did around 30% water change on 3rd May 2017 and added dechlorinator for first time since the tank started which was 2 scoop of Seachem Prime and half bottle of another dechlorinator. I didn't add dechlorinator before as someone told me that with activated carbon in sump I should never add any chemical, medicine or dechlorinator as it doesn't work.

I tested my water parameters for the first time today on 8th May, last water change was on 3rd May which was 30%. I use tap water in my aquarium which have 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrate and 0 Nitrates. The Ph of Tap water is around 7.6. I am thinking of doing 70-80% water change tomorrow, including sump water. I have added some plants in sump on 6th may but those are not big enough yet. how can i reduce Nitrates in fish tank, are Nitrates burning fish fins? Please tell me what caused this and what can should I do now. Please help and guide me, Please save my fishes.

Regards,
Additya

 

[Drstrangelove]

Yes I am going to make a completely new post and post in emergency section of the website by tomorrow, I am panicked so posted in hurry. The tank was completed on 25th April 2017, I filled it with water on 26th April 17 and added the fishes on same day from my 125 gallon aquarium, I also added 90% water from 125 gallon to the new aquarium plus also used its media in the canister filter like purigen, carbon, ceramic rings in the new sump.

This might have worked, but by not using a dechlorinator, you likely wiped out all the BB. OTOH, since from what you said, it doesn't sound like you ever used dechlorinator, you might not have had much BB anyway.

The new sump filter is almost 80 Gallon. I have done 3-4 water changes since I got the aquarium. The first two were 30% only.

Smaller WC might have enabled your fish to weather the chlorine. But ammonia build up likely continued. Some fish can survive it, although the BB took hits each time.

I have blood parrots in tank too, around 15th May I saw sickness symptoms in one of my blood parrot as it was always swimming on top and wasn't so active (its still alive and still on top near one corner) then I saw burned fins on two of my oscars, jaguar cichlids, redtail shark around 20 May which are visible till now and still prominant. All fish are bit sluggish now.

To me, this is signs of ammonia poisoning.

Then I did big water change around 50% on 31st May and the shortbody flowerhorn was very active and perfect that day but suddenly on 1st June it started swimming upside down and its fins were rotting (its shocking because this happened in matter of one night and he was perfectly fine and active). I tried treating him in hospital tank, he survived for few days then he passed away, Its sad as he was my oldest fish and fully grown. I raised him since he was 2 inch old, he had a big hump and was very colourful.

I'm guessing, the larger WC (50%) was enough chlorine to tip the scales. That plus the previous damage was probably enough. Another BB hit.

Then on 3rd June perfect looking 15 inch pleco died which I bought from LFS around 28th May 2017, its weird as he was so active too and almost fully grown.

Hard to tell here. A fish not acclimated to a tank with high nitrates, plus ammonia and nitrites, might not survive. Or it may have been sickly to begin with. The former is my guess. Fish exposed to poor water slowly can often acclimate fine, but a sudden exposure leads to death. Salt is an example, since some fish that will survive in water at 3ppm if exposed gradually, will die if suddenly placed in it.

I did around 30% water change on 3rd May 2017 and added dechlorinator for first time since the tank started which was 2 scoop of Seachem Prime and half bottle of another dechlorinator.

From your earlier post, I think you mean 3rd June, not 3rd May.

In summary, in 6 weeks, that was something like 4 WC (30% x2, 50% x2), with dechlorinator in only the last one, in a tank that probably had little or no BB. Fish probably survived because the volume of water was so large in the tank and sump, it diluted the problems for the healthiest and hardiest of the fish, who got by on burns and lethargy.

I tested my water parameters for the first time today on 8th May, last water change was on 3rd May which was 30%. I use tap water in my aquarium which have 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrate and 0 Nitrates. The Ph of Tap water is around 7.6. I am thinking of doing 70-80% water change tomorrow, including sump water. I have added some plants in sump on 6th may but those are not big enough yet. how can i reduce Nitrates in fish tank, are Nitrates burning fish fins? Please tell me what caused this and what can should I do now. Please help and guide me,

What were the readings on May 8? Or is that the only test you've done?

Based upon all I've read, nitrate does not burn fins. Some things it does: reduces the immune system, kill or deforms eggs and fry, and reduce appetites, so that a fish population will wither away rapidly in high (800-1400 ppm) water ways and lakes. It won't kill most if any healthy adult fish at levels below 400 ppm, much less at half that level, over a relatively short period, although over a long period it will contribute to death by reducing the fish's appetite, activity and immune system. However, in the presence of ammonia and nitrites, levels of 100-200 might contribute to death.

Stop feeding. Use something like Seachem Stability until you get more input.

 

[DN328]

Sorry I cannot add more to this OP; only to reiterate if the tank was ever cycled. I know you provided the water parameters but seems a short period to cycle, no?

 

[Aquatank]

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Update:

Guys I am planning 78 L X 30 W X 30 H with 12 mm "Tempered" glass with 19 mm bracing. Is there any problems with tempering the aquarium glass. Also in 30" Height, 6" will be used for bracing and support. Please suggest and advise.

Regards,
Additya

Hey addtiya where do you live in India as I have couple of friends who make massive fishtank a for comparability cheap rates.
Their shops in Kurla ,Mumbai if you stay near or somewhere in Mumbai I can fix you with them.