Has anyone read this article talking about prime vs safe (seachem)

[shern]

came across this while doing more research on the difference between safe and prime (seachem) through sulfite conversion

https://aquariumscience.org/index.php/5-5-3-2-prime-and-safe/
found it quite amusing to read

it seems to kinda bash seachem products as faulty snake oils.

it seems like a legitimate paper and i was wondering whether there was any truth regarding this

 

[Flaring Afro]

Interesting. It looks fairly legit but isn't exactly a peer backed scientific study and I'm not familiar with that domain.

I haven't been a proponent of it since I'd argue your tank isn't stable with the water change schedule you keep if you have to try to chemical dose it to remove nitrates, and I use filters to remove chlorine from my pre-water change water without the use of conditioners.

 

[HarleyK]

The guy just sounds like an angry and bitter know-it-all. I honestly cannot take him serious.

 

[shern]

Interesting. It looks fairly legit but isn't exactly a peer backed scientific study and I'm not familiar with that domain.

I haven't been a proponent of it since I'd argue your tank isn't stable with the water change schedule you keep if you have to try to chemical dose it to remove nitrates, and I use filters to remove chlorine from my pre-water change water without the use of conditioners.

it seems to claim that prime doesnt actually detox anything and has little to no effect to the chlorine found within tap water. in sense it's arguing that sulfite doesn't work. which is chemically incorrect

 

[danotaylor]

it seems to claim that prime doesnt actually detox anything and has little to no effect to the chlorine found within tap water. in sense it's arguing that sulfite doesn't work. which is chemically incorrect

Haha and experientially incorrect to anyone who uses it. My fish would be dead if it didn’t work. Been using it for chlorinated & chloraminated city water for years.
Prime at x5 the dosing even saved my fish during the mycocystin breakout in Toledo in 2014 or 15 when blue green algae got into the Lake Erie water supply and poisoned Toledo’s drinking water supply.

 

[shern]

Haha and experientially incorrect to anyone who uses it. My fish would be dead if it didn’t work. Been using it for chlorinated & chloraminated city water for years.
Prime at x5 the dosing even saved my fish during the mycocystin breakout in Toledo in 2014 or 15 when blue green algae got into the Lake Erie water supply and poisoned Toledo’s drinking water supply.

exactly, prime and safe actually have saved my tank so many times through power outages and contaminated waters.

this article seems giga bogus to me

thought id put it up to see if any part was actually correct

 

[Flaring Afro]

it seems to claim that prime doesnt actually detox anything and has little to no effect to the chlorine found within tap water. in sense it's arguing that sulfite doesn't work. which is chemically incorrect

The article states their claim that their products are the ONLY ones to do this is false, not that their products do not do it. They seem to be using the term "snake oil" incorrectly though.

5.5.3.2.4. Prime, Safe and Chloramine

aquariumscience.org

 

[jjohnwm]

I first found that site when looking for info on a particular subject and their article was fairly well-thought-out and reasonable. I've since visited it on several other occasions and read a few more articles, and frankly each has been more of a gong show than the last.

When you find info on a subject with which you are very familiar, and know that what is being presented as fact is not even close to reality...well, hopefully it gives you a healthy distrust of anything else from that source.