HR 669 : CONGRESSIONAL HEARING BANNING NONNATIVE SPECIES APRIL 23, 2009 ACTION NEEDED
- Thread starter neoprodigy
- Start date
If you can afford it, join PIJAC: one of the 4 non-federal invited attendees at the subcommittee hearing.
http://www.pijac.org/files/public/AFForm_2009.pdf
This organization needs your support
http://www.pijac.org/files/public/AFForm_2009.pdf
This organization needs your support
Email from Marshall Meyers, Head of the Pet Industry Joint Action Council:
"I will be one of the 4 invited witnesses not in Federal Government.
The most important steps that need to occur ASAP
1. People need to contact via mail, FAX and/or email their comments
2. They also need to contact the subcommittee members district offices to
a. let the District Offices know their concerns because they are they people who are on the ground within the district and most likely to get the message through to key staff in DC and to the Member
b. request a face to face meeting with the member when they are in the District
3. The Spring Break is about to occur and many members will hold town hall styled meetings. People need to attend and ask them questions re HR 669 and see how they respond and if they really understand the implications of the bill
Letters in opposition from thousands of people, especially constituents, need to be recevied by their offices not delivered by me if want greatest impact.
Quite honestly, petitions have little affect and are normally treated as one opposition.
ANOTHER issue is convincing people that most of the species in their possession are nonnatives. Amazing how many people are confused by fact animals born here are nonnative! Also, people mislead by arguments that this only affects "IMPORTED nonnatives." What they need to understand is that one lists become effective, possession of nonnatives not appearing on the Approved (Clean) List can not be bred, sold, moved interstate, etc.
Attached is a revised PetAlert. We will also be producing a simplified PetAlert addressing some of issues above for pet owners and people not as familiar with the Lacey Act as commercial dealers.
Thanks and let's keep in touch.
Marshall
PS Can talk over weekend if want."
We all need to contact the subcommittee members regarding our stance. I will be posting the contact information for the subcommittee.
"I will be one of the 4 invited witnesses not in Federal Government.
The most important steps that need to occur ASAP
1. People need to contact via mail, FAX and/or email their comments
2. They also need to contact the subcommittee members district offices to
a. let the District Offices know their concerns because they are they people who are on the ground within the district and most likely to get the message through to key staff in DC and to the Member
b. request a face to face meeting with the member when they are in the District
3. The Spring Break is about to occur and many members will hold town hall styled meetings. People need to attend and ask them questions re HR 669 and see how they respond and if they really understand the implications of the bill
Letters in opposition from thousands of people, especially constituents, need to be recevied by their offices not delivered by me if want greatest impact.
Quite honestly, petitions have little affect and are normally treated as one opposition.
ANOTHER issue is convincing people that most of the species in their possession are nonnatives. Amazing how many people are confused by fact animals born here are nonnative! Also, people mislead by arguments that this only affects "IMPORTED nonnatives." What they need to understand is that one lists become effective, possession of nonnatives not appearing on the Approved (Clean) List can not be bred, sold, moved interstate, etc.
Attached is a revised PetAlert. We will also be producing a simplified PetAlert addressing some of issues above for pet owners and people not as familiar with the Lacey Act as commercial dealers.
Thanks and let's keep in touch.
Marshall
PS Can talk over weekend if want."
We all need to contact the subcommittee members regarding our stance. I will be posting the contact information for the subcommittee.
krzr3000;2975545; said:
Isnt a diamond back, or any poisonous snake more dangerous then a burmese python? large ones that can kill people are large, and move slowly.
If this bill pass. anything non-native animal that is not on the Approved list will be banned, until someone fight for a species to be added into the list.
IMO this bill is crap, the current approved list has some of the most invasive species.
We should be concerned with controling feral cats and wild dogs, not what an animal can do. Because any animal can kill and affect an eco system.
Acestro;2976257; said:
lol!!!!! i cant imagine no more pets bro.... here check this out....see how much we love our pets...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw
More than half of the animals on the "approved" list are banned inside many city limits and I didn't see anything providing for zoos or public aquariums. This bill is garbage.
You're misreading the proposed statute. Those species would be statutorily exempt from regulation. The USFWS would be required to promulgate regulations listing "approved species." The determination of what species would ultimately be listed in the "approved species" list to would depend on public input and the factors set forth in the proposed statute.CichlidsRool;2975724; said:
IMO, this a completely asinine way to regulate. It reminds me of Australia, which has a similar regulatory scheme. Given that potentially harmful non-native species comprise a small percentage of total non-native species, it makes vastly more sense to regulate by listing the few prohibited species, i.e., the current Lacey Act regulatory scheme, than to list each and every conceivable harmless approved species. Australia has a similar regulatory scheme to what is proposed w/ HR 669 and it's a complete clusterf**k. Datnoids are illegal in Australia, not because they are potentially harmful to the local biota, but because someone neglected to put them on the approved species list. If HR 669 is passed, USFWS will have its hands full compiling a list of the hundreds of thousands of harmless "approved" species. It will be an implementation nightmare.
Imagine if controlled substances were regulated in the same manner. Law enforcement agencies would have to memorize an exhaustive list of every "approved" substance, rather than memoraizing a much shorter list of prohibited substances.
umm...yeah, for the people who say this is good...then why arent they starting from the bottom, and finding listing these "harmful" species first. so far, theyve banned everyhting....except farm animals for obvious reasons and cats and dogs. for one thing....i bet cats send more people to the doctor for infections and **** than any of these other things have done to people. and what about pigs...those things will eat any and everything....god damn...we're ****ed.
Great. First Rocky and now THIS!?
There IS a reason why I call people like them ****HEADS!!!
That said, this sucks. This bill will hopefully NOT PASS because if it did, we'd have a lot of crap. I mean come on, we've got more issues coming out of our domestics rather than our exotics, why ban the exotics? This is senseless #%@%$#%$@%$#%@^$ and is so UTTERLY ****HEADED that some elements of the American Government are losing my respect, FAST.
There IS a reason why I call people like them ****HEADS!!!
That said, this sucks. This bill will hopefully NOT PASS because if it did, we'd have a lot of crap. I mean come on, we've got more issues coming out of our domestics rather than our exotics, why ban the exotics? This is senseless #%@%$#%$@%$#%@^$ and is so UTTERLY ****HEADED that some elements of the American Government are losing my respect, FAST.
Gr8KarmaSF;2974219; said:
Not to be off topic, but being a History major I am fully aware of Guam's role in the major wars. Russia was also an integral partner in us winning WWII. As were quite a few other countries. Our recapturing of the Island from Japan was integral, giving us an ideal location(because of it's ability to base our battleships) for taking back the Philippines, Taiwan and the Ryukyu Islands.
I was stationed there while in the Army. Beautiful Island...nice people...but it ain't New York City.
My comment was tongue in cheek. Lighten up.
