Hypostomus Luteus

[BossNguyen]

I keep my plecos species only with intent to breed, but ive seen luteus kept with a ton of various fish.

I felt like ive seen your name somewhere, and i remember it was your corydoras! recently got into cories, and im blown away on how many species are out there.

Stunning luteus. Top of my wish list
I'd add more, I've always had a big mix of plecs with no issues, the odd spat but nothing nasty

thank you! stunning pleco for surely and please take pics of your Luteus to share with us when you get one . Trying to find an LDA105 next

 

[Helepolis]

Off the top of my head there is at least 200+ corydoras species and 700+ documented pleco species. I've been told there's probably 1000's of sp of ancistrus (bristlenose) but they're all "ugly" or similar enough looking that no one bothers lol.

 

[jjohnwm]

Off the top of my head there is at least 200+ corydoras species and 700+ documented pleco species. I've been told there's probably 1000's of sp of ancistrus (bristlenose) but they're all "ugly" or similar enough looking that no one bothers lol.

Are there still any Corydoras species? I see that the splitters have been hard at work and sliced'n'diced the genus into a bunch of new smaller genera. Gastrodermus...Hoplisoma...Osteogaster...likely others...is Corydoras even still a legitimate genus anymore?

Just when you thought it was safe to go into the aquarium store...dang eggheads...

 

[Fallen_Leaves16]

Are there still any Corydoras species? I see that the splitters have been hard at work and sliced'n'diced the genus into a bunch of new smaller genera. Gastrodermus...Hoplisoma...Osteogaster...likely others...is Corydoras even still a legitimate genus anymore?

Just when you thought it was safe to go into the aquarium store...dang eggheads...

They were originally proposed and/or classified as separate genera, then lumped back together into Corydoras for a good while- though the 'subtypes'/'lineages'/clades' represented what were the former genera, and were still oftentimes mentioned as such.

The Corydoradinae has full right to be broken down into different genera IMO. The change is/was long overdue from a taxonomic standpoint. From a hobbyist standpoint, it seems unnecessary, but it does give more clarification on species hybridisation potential and general care and whatnot- something that was much more difficult to clarify to new keepers with all the talk of lineage numbers and the like.

Lineage 1, the long-snouted Corydoras, are now the true basal genus Corydoras.

Off the top of my head there is at least 200+ corydoras species and 700+ documented pleco species. I've been told there's probably 1000's of sp of ancistrus (bristlenose) but they're all "ugly" or similar enough looking that no one bothers lol.

Likely around ~700-1000+ total species of Corydoradinae, and anywhere from ~700-1200 estimated total species of Hypostominae, depending on who you ask. Though the numbers are declining due to extensive habitat destruction. The numbers are all estimates based on multiple factors.

There are about 150-250 potential species of Ancistrus, as opposed to 1000, with ~100 likely distinct species known to the hobby.

Generally, a lack of funding and availability of organised research as well as ready access to specimens is the main deterrent in describing most of the individual species of undescribed fish out there, not necessarily their ornamental worth or general 'attractiveness', though those factors certainly help somewhat.

 

[jjohnwm]

The Corydoradinae has full right to be broken down into different genera IMO. The change is/was long overdue from a taxonomic standpoint. From a hobbyist standpoint, it seems unnecessary, but it does give more clarification on species hybridisation potential and general care and whatnot- something that was much more difficult to clarify to new keepers with all the talk of lineage numbers and the like...Generally, a lack of funding and availability of organised research as well as ready access to specimens is the main deterrent in describing most of the individual species of undescribed fish out there, not necessarily their ornamental worth or general 'attractiveness', though those factors certainly help somewhat.

If you say so, I won't pretend to be qualified to deny it or disprove it. Your comment about the change being "long overdue from a taxonomic standpoint" is something I have read time and again, relating to many different animal groups, fish and otherwise. I'm certain that it is meant to imply that there were problems associated with the old nomenclature and that the changes are actually constructive. But the cynical part of me reads that and what I hear is "We haven't screwed up this group for awhile, and lay people are getting just a little too comfortable and relaxed with it. It's way past time for us to stick the shovel into the manure pile and raise a fresh stink again!"

And of course...these guys love nothing more than "discovering" a new species...by examining 50-year-old preserved specimens found at the back of dusty museum shelves and drawers. Much more convenient than, well...you know...going outside to look for them "on the hoof"...

 

[BossNguyen]

Off the top of my head there is at least 200+ corydoras species and 700+ documented pleco species. I've been told there's probably 1000's of sp of ancistrus (bristlenose) but they're all "ugly" or similar enough looking that no one bothers lol.

cw127 and cw111 are the top of my bucket list to keep! although i'd ideally love to own atleast one of each lineage.