Jardini and their Colors

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ermgravy;4956446; said:
Color variation in jar's is caused by two things.

1. Tank back ground. darker/lighter colors will affect tone of the jar.
2. Diet, a high protein pellet an MP diet will help bring out more of the pink-red tones.

Lighting setup also affects a jars color but only while the light is on. that is obvious and an outside eliment but doest effect photos!

this is well documented on these forums if only people tried the search feature...

as evident by the Black Jar in a white setup (page 2), there seems to be conflicting theories in regards to the environmental factors.

however i think it is universally accepted that foods such as shrimp enhance reds. and i did note this in the post.

i searched this whole forum, yes all the 100's of posts on jardini color, which was in fact the reason why this thread came into existence.
 
dragonfish1ca;4956554; said:
I would like to Point out.....
I had a Black Jardini at my moms that had Light gravel, White wall background and shop lights from revy.....Was fed beefheart and smelts... And Jet Black....
It wasnt really worth any more it was just diffrent :)
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WOW. thats an awesome Jar.
and yes. this does challenge the notion that the environment influences the Jar's colors. bc according to that theory, your Jar should become pale.
 
jdvue;4956646; said:
WOW. thats an awesome Jar.
and yes. this does challenge the notion that the environment influences the Jar's colors. bc according to that theory, your Jar should become pale.
His Jardini is beautiful. IMO it might have some melanism(not fully melanisic), therefore it is still dark in a light enviroment. ;)
 
lol yup....
I am well versed in asian arowanas when it comes to color and depth of scales ect ect.... Ive seen the white treatment golds Vs the Black tank golds, The super reds that were fed nothing but superwors with shop lights or High vitamin diets and NAN lighs ect ect ect ect....
To me..... It all comes down to genetics.... Ive seen some DEEP gold crossbacks In black tanks.... and Ive seen Blood reds 2 foot long under standard cool while florescent. Thats all i chaulked my moms jardini up to as she fed it Crap and had the most basic tank setup with no background even and water changes ever month if it was luck and still that sucker was a satin black.....
Thats my 2 bits anyways lol
 
dragonfish1ca;4956659; said:
lol yup....
I am well versed in asian arowanas when it comes to color and depth of scales ect ect.... Ive seen the white treatment golds Vs the Black tank golds, The super reds that were fed nothing but superwors with shop lights or High vitamin diets and NAN lighs ect ect ect ect....
To me..... It all comes down to genetics.... Ive seen some DEEP gold crossbacks In black tanks.... and Ive seen Blood reds 2 foot long under standard cool while florescent. Thats all i chaulked my moms jardini up to as she fed it Crap and had the most basic tank setup with no background even and water changes ever month if it was luck and still that sucker was a satin black.....
Thats my 2 bits anyways lol
So your the one who posted this beauty on AF. :naughty::drool:
 
dragonfish1ca;4956659; said:
lol yup....
I am well versed in asian arowanas when it comes to color and depth of scales ect ect.... Ive seen the white treatment golds Vs the Black tank golds, The super reds that were fed nothing but superwors with shop lights or High vitamin diets and NAN lighs ect ect ect ect....
To me..... It all comes down to genetics.... Ive seen some DEEP gold crossbacks In black tanks.... and Ive seen Blood reds 2 foot long under standard cool while florescent. Thats all i chaulked my moms jardini up to as she fed it Crap and had the most basic tank setup with no background even and water changes ever month if it was luck and still that sucker was a satin black.....
Thats my 2 bits anyways lol

yes. thats my belief that genetics play a greater role than we give it credit. and that these different variations in Jardinis are in fact due to causes in their genetic make up rather than the outcome from the environment which they are put in.

wow. i wish we could have asians here in the US.

BUT, if my theory holds true... what i am trying to get to here is that there may be a market...
if someone where to breed these Jars selectively for these different traits that we have noticed... and perfect them to the same degree as the Blood Reds and Goldens and Xbacks in the Asian lines...
Just imagine...us Americans will at least have Jars that rival Asians...
heck, even more black Jars like yours would be awesome to see.
 
That is all Very possible.... I think the reason they havent as of yet is the simple fact they can still be collected in the wild and brought to the US and canada for $7-$20 each whereas a selective breeding program is way way over budget in comparison when you have to face the Nay Sayers at the pet store end of it.
 
Good stuff dont worry about all the people it is clear they look different in color. Thats like saying all german shepherds are german shepherds even though there are black, white, black and tan etc... My point is that there are different colors and you did a great job in pointing them out.
 
dragonfish1ca;4956696; said:
That is all Very possible.... I think the reason they havent as of yet is the simple fact they can still be collected in the wild and brought to the US and canada for $7-$20 each whereas a selective breeding program is way way over budget in comparison when you have to face the Nay Sayers at the pet store end of it.

yes. so perhaps if such a program were to occur then the market price would be high, perhaps simialr to Asian Arows. In the $500+ range.

Then again, I bet many here wouldnt mind paying that high price for a nice "red jardini arowana"... a real/true one.

*whoever copies this idea... i want 10% of profits lol
 
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