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Juvenile Cichla ID thread

What do you all think these are? I bought the first one as ocell but im thinking it is an orino. The second one it was sold to me as a kelberi but looks more like an azul.... opinions?

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Thanks. I'm sure I'll get the hang of it better again. Guess I was just hoping to find xingu
 
Looks to have more Ocellaris traits than Brokopondo, could be wrong though. There have been some brokos with more spangling though.

Ok thanks I wasn’t sure. With all the red on the anil and pelvic fins, I see the ocell traits your talking about but wasn’t sure with the way the back bar was broken up and the blood red eyes.
 
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