Yes, H. spurius is still a valid species. H. appendiculatus is not though, for some strange reason Kullander put it in junior synomyn status with H. efasciatus.
Links for the genus Heros??
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here are photo of the fish I have found.
Heros Efasciatus
http://aquarium.discus.chez-alice.fr/Heros efasciatus1.jpg
Heros Notatus ( I ordered one it should be here soon)
http://www.harald-hecke.de/heros_spec_notatus1.jpg
Heros**spurius-*photo NA
Heros Severum
http://www.fishyfriendsaquatics.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/img_3058.jpg
Heros Rotkeil
http://cichlids.akvariefisk.dk/storage/debat/F1B5C37B-112F-103E-11EF7C5622A93ACE.jpg
Heros Appendiculatus
http://www.american.cichlids.ru/images/fishes/heros_appendiculatus_m_(sj).jpg
here is the link I was looking for.
http://www.cichlidae.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1028
Heros Efasciatus
http://aquarium.discus.chez-alice.fr/Heros efasciatus1.jpg
Heros Notatus ( I ordered one it should be here soon)
http://www.harald-hecke.de/heros_spec_notatus1.jpg
Heros**spurius-*photo NA
Heros Severum
http://www.fishyfriendsaquatics.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/img_3058.jpg
Heros Rotkeil
http://cichlids.akvariefisk.dk/storage/debat/F1B5C37B-112F-103E-11EF7C5622A93ACE.jpg
Heros Appendiculatus
http://www.american.cichlids.ru/images/fishes/heros_appendiculatus_m_(sj).jpg
here is the link I was looking for.
http://www.cichlidae.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1028
You are still mixing valid species with undescribed varieties. There is no such thing as Heros rotkeil, only Heros Sp. 'Rotkeil'. Big difference. There is also no such fish as Heros severum.
According to that link you posted, H. appendiculatus is the same fish as H. efasciatus ("H. appendiculatus [S. Kullander-1986, R. Stawikowski-1995] = H. efasciatus [S. Kullander-2003]"), and according to the ITIS there are only four valid species. Link.
It seems to me that the greatly increased pressure from the hobby has led to it overtaking biologists in catching and discovering new varieties, giving us a big backlog of yet-to-be-classified fish. This combined with the hobbyists generally sloppy use of taxonomic Latin and the industries desire to give fish interesting names to help them sell makes for a nightmare situation regarding names!
According to that link you posted, H. appendiculatus is the same fish as H. efasciatus ("H. appendiculatus [S. Kullander-1986, R. Stawikowski-1995] = H. efasciatus [S. Kullander-2003]"), and according to the ITIS there are only four valid species. Link.
It seems to me that the greatly increased pressure from the hobby has led to it overtaking biologists in catching and discovering new varieties, giving us a big backlog of yet-to-be-classified fish. This combined with the hobbyists generally sloppy use of taxonomic Latin and the industries desire to give fish interesting names to help them sell makes for a nightmare situation regarding names!
I thought the mouth brooder was called Heros severum?
Whatever they are they are great fish and I love them all.
But I agree it's all kind of a mess and they are still trying to work it all out. Yes differant names do help sell them for more money.
Whatever they are they are great fish and I love them all.
But I agree it's all kind of a mess and they are still trying to work it all out. Yes differant names do help sell them for more money.
Snowflake311;3921457; said:
H. severus, not severum.
And I couldn't agree more, they are all beautiful regardless of what they're called, and I'm insanely jealous that I can't get my hands on more of the wild caught ones. Trying to classify something as complicated as the natural ecosystem is bordering on impossible IMO, yet we still try...
May be this could be the Heros spurius
From a seller on Japan
http://aqua-bonito.web.infoseek.co.jp/HOME/HOME.html
From a seller on Japan
http://aqua-bonito.web.infoseek.co.jp/HOME/HOME.html
Snowflake311;3921457; said:
The mouth brooding severum is referred to most often Heros sp. 'Atabapo' same as the Heros sp. 'Rotkeil' is.
Agreed that all the sloppy name calling (myself included) doesn't help the situation. Even worse with this genus is the corny LFS names assigned. Straberry face, red shoulder, red headed severum and the like all for same species.