I think that them 2 are L190 as well. IME I havent seen LDA63 with the spotted hard fin rays on their fins. LDA63 have the red colour on their dorsal, pectoral and pelvic fins, not on their caudal.
Heres a pic of one of my L190, that has the red in the caudal fin
Here is a recent pic of the same fish, definitely L190.
Heres a pic of one of my L190, that has the red in the caudal fin
Here is a recent pic of the same fish, definitely L190.