My tap water has ammonia and nitrates

1000ninja

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Welcome to the area haha, we're in farmland and you'll just have to deal with the nitrates. Prime will take care of the chloramine until your bio clears the ammonia. The LFSs around are almost all geared for Africans and salt. CA are not very common. SA are somewhat easy to get if they're common. It's quite hard to keep SA healthy in our crappy water. Would require RO to keep any of the less resilient SAs.

Oh hi wasn't expecting many if any people from Omaha on here but glad there's at least one. Pardon my ignorance but what is CA and SA?

What do you have?
 
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1000ninja

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Sorry I forgot to put the species of chemical in my last post.
Nitrate (tested by pro chemists and high tech equipment) leaving the plant is less than 4ppm. And 10ppm "is" the MCL.
So no legit plant in the US would go above 10 ppm without serious consequence.
Thanks for the help. I'm glad I seem to be wrong and I will test again tonight when I get home.
 
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I live in Omaha too. I don't get detectable ammonia in the water MOST of the time but it changes monthly/yearly. I used to get 20ppm Nitrate in my old house but for some reason only 10ppm at my new house.
The only place I know with a black rhom for sale now is Mike, but Luke in Bellevue can get Mannys right now! IMO a 120 is too small for either they take a long time to grow.
 

1000ninja

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I live in Omaha too. I don't get detectable ammonia in the water MOST of the time but it changes monthly/yearly. I used to get 20ppm Nitrate in my old house but for some reason only 10ppm at my new house.
The only place I know with a black rhom for sale now is Mike, but Luke in Bellevue can get Mannys right now! IMO a 120 is too small for either they take a long time to grow.
Who is mike and Luke? I planned on hopefully buying one online tho

A 120 is too small for a small black rhom?
 

heavyhitter

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They can get 16" in captivity, 24" in the wild. They grow pretty slow, especially after the 6-7" mark so it will last you a while but not for life. A Manueli are harder to come by and more of a wow factor then a Rhom IMO and they get massive also. Luke owns Fin-tatsic, Mike owns Cichlid-Freaks, I guess it was presumptuous of me to assume you knew that.
 

1000ninja

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I live in Omaha too. I don't get detectable ammonia in the water MOST of the time but it changes monthly/yearly. I used to get 20ppm Nitrate in my old house but for some reason only 10ppm at my new house.
The only place I know with a black rhom for sale now is Mike, but Luke in Bellevue can get Mannys right now! IMO a 120 is too small for either they take a long time to grow.

And now I'm a little confused because your readings are in line with mine and the other guy was saying they should never be that high
 

Chockful O Phail

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duanes duanes Agreed that home testing equipment isn't up to the standards of water plants.

I'll add that the high ph isn't stable, it'll drop a full point after a day. So keeping species that don't deal with ph change well is extra difficult. Aging water is an option. I didn't realize this until I lost a group of roselines. I previously had a few groups of pictus catfish die suddenly just after a water change and finally when my roselines died the same way I researched it and found the reason.
 

heavyhitter

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We have some of the worst water in the country, just google it.

"The land-locked city of Omaha gets its water from the Missouri and Platte Rivers, as well as from groundwater. Of the 148 chemicals tested for in Omaha, 42 were detected in some amount, 20 of which were above health guidelines, and four of those were detected in illegal amounts. These were atrazine, trihalomethanes, nitrate and nitrite, and manganese. Atrazine is an herbicide that has been shown to cause birth defects. Nitrate is found in fertilizer, and nitrite is used for curing meat. Manganese was detected at 40 times the legal limit during one month of testing."

and

"Among the 32 chemicals detected, illegal amounts of atrazine, trihalomethanes, nitrate and nitrite, and manganese were found in the water that 506,420 Omahans use. These chemicals have been know to cause birth defects."
 

1000ninja

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They can get 16" in captivity, 24" in the wild. They grow pretty slow, especially after the 6-7" mark so it will last you a while but not for life. A Manueli are harder to come by and more of a wow factor then a Rhom IMO and they get massive also. Luke owns Fin-tatsic, Mike owns Cichlid-Freaks, I guess it was presumptuous of me to assume you knew that.
I didn't want to go bigger than 120 at the apt I'm living at now but down the road when the fish needed a bigger tank I was gonna upgrade.

How much are those manueli going for? Don't see those too often. Fish freaks is cool but I haven't checked out fin-tactic yet
 
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