So I picked up 4 of these guys and my two Armatus already ate one and killed another so I am down to these two. I tried starving them for a week and tried feeding frozen with no luck. They won't eat anything else except for live so what gives as I read they are garbage cans or easy fish to get off live but it's not working for me as of yet. There is training fish in the tank so maybe I will have to try different training fish like tinfoils. I tried frozen krill but haven't tried the freeze dried yet. What works for the other odoe owners?