New Setup: 125 Gallon Planted Angel and Discus Tank

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xtremegamer1000

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Hello there fish friends,

I'm strongly considering purchasing a complete 125 gallon tank setup with stand and overhead for $400 (it even has a 55 gallon tank for a sump with it). At that price, I believe I'm getting a great deal, unless someone convinces me otherwise.
Anyway, I was thinking about doing a tank setup that I've always dreamed of: planted with Angels and Discus. I've worked with Angels before, even had a breeding pair before the male died, but I was hoping for some suggestions/advice with the discus. First off, would I be best suited at buying some from a place like Aquabid or a local store? Or is there a suggested place to buy? Second, how hard is it to maintain juvie discus? I hear how it's a must to do regular water changes, in a 125 gallon with a sump what would that look like? I'm not worried so much with the Angels because I know that they are actually a pretty adaptable fish. I'm wanting to get a group of 5 red turquoise discus and 5 high coverage koi angels, any suggestions on the best place for high coverage koi angels?
Next thing is the plants. I've only grown java moss before based on how simple it really is and really didn't require anything. I was thinking about doing that with Java Ferns and Amazon Swords. Any other suggested plants or do you think the combo of those would work? Also, I've read I will need a flourite substrate. Could I put down a small layer of fluorite, and then on top cover with pool filter sand? Also, would I need to get any added CO2 equipment, or as long as I have the required lighting I should be ok?
Finally, I obviously plan to cycle the tank first, should I add the plants and then cycle, or cycle the tank, then add plants and then fish?
Hopefully you all can guide me in certain areas with this, as this process moves on I'll be sure to post pics. Or if you have something similar and have specs on your setup, that would be much appreciated! I'm thinking of also getting a bio wheel filter for easy access for chemical filtration, since it's easy to add stuff to those filter pads, plus the biological would get a boost from the wheel, although most of the biological will be in the sump.


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im curious to know if the angels would kill the discus? sounds like a great set up, i would love to do that to my 220 gallon lol it just looks more elegant to me. the discus and angels tank that is.
 
Plants can slightly slow down a cycle because they will use some of the ammonia and nitrite before the BB grows to use it up. Keep in mind that having plants will always reduce the bioload, so it doesnt matter a ton. As for substrate yes the amazon swords are root feeders so they usually need soil, root tabs help, but java fern and anubias are similar to moss and doesnt need much to grow and get nutrients from the water column. Co2 is not necessary with these plants but it will speed up growth and reduce algae and give you the ability to grow more demanding plants in the future if you choose

Im getting my tank ready for discus in the future but its just a 57g with some of the mentioned plants and I have an angel fish in there for now, but want to get my plants fully established and my water perfect before I go ahead and get into a real expensive pair of discus. Ive read enough to turn me away from juvenile discus, not because of the water but because of the feeding schedule when young. Check the plant section if you want to see what I have going right now
 
That all sounds great! One more thing: if I were to cycle the tank first using a fishless cycle, and then put plants in it and leave them alone for a month or two before adding fish, should I just keep adding small amounts of ammonia like when cycling? And is there a product you use to add CO2 or fertilizer weekly for the plants?


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I wouldn't buy juvie discus because it's very difficult and not a good idea to try and grow discus in a planted tank. That's why most discus hobbyists gros they're discus out in bare bottom tanks doing almost everyday water changes. Discus get sick very easy. I've never seen it done successfully growing discus out in a planted tank. Also the angels are more aggressive eaters while discus are grazers so the discus won't get the amount of food that is suitable for growing them out properly. If you are going to do a planted tank with both angels and discus than buy discus that are around at least 5" plus. They don't need to be fed as much and are a lot more adaptable to Amy sickness . Discus juvies tend to get a lot of peppering on their body in a planted tank for some reason. Best way to grow juvies into beautiful adults is growing them in a barebottom with daily water changes and heavy feeding. Very rewarding if done correctly. They will grow very slowly if at all in a planted tank. Juvies aren't good with any ammonia or nitrates. I raised and bred discus for a few years and when I first started I tried growing them in a planted tank and they didn't grow well at all. When I learned the correct way from breeders raising them in a bare bottom and feeding heavily with large water changes I was getting them to grow 1/2" to 3/4" a month and turned out with some great looking fish. Don't get me wrong, discus adults look amazing in a planted tank with some driftwood. I would get sub adult to adult size discus for you tank especially if your new with discus. They're a lot of work. Hope this helps.
 
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