pacus and oscars in out door pond

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lol yeah-look at the guys face-looks like hes going to have a hernia lol..
 

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I thought about the jumping problem and can do with out the aro. But i think im going to build it and put a small pacu or a oscar in there and see how he does. If he doesnt work out it will be another koi pond. I sure hope it works out though been wanting to do this for awhile. Thanks for all the help anymore suggestions will help alot!
 

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I'm the worst at keeping it short... so here's the cliffs notes: I live it Houston, it usually does't get THAT cold down here, last year my 1500 gal pond's temp got to the high 50s at its coldest point, but this past weekend, the air temp was in the high 30s (coudlnt find the thermometer to check water temp) and my pacus almost died. Read on for the longer version. I'm sure you could heat a pond, but I'm also sure it would be super expensive to do.

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With the power out after the hurricane here, my biggest Pacu was dead when I returned to myhouse and the others (1 more red belly, 1 black pacu, and an Oscar) were looking really bad. I put them all out in my 1500 above ground pond on the deck, because even though there were no pumps working out there, I figured the bigger volume would give them the best chance to survive. They did fine out there, and seemed fine with the koi/goldfish as well. I talked to a coworker about leaving them out there for the winter and he said they woudlnt make it (I kept track last year, and I think the lowest the water temp got was in the high 50s).

Well, I decide to drain the tank and move it while the monsters are in the pond, plus they're doing fine, so I figure I'll bring them in 'one of these days'. It starts getting cooler, and I look and the oscar has a sort of sore on his head with a hazy film over it. I decide as soon as I get back in town (leaving for the weekend) I was going to set up their tank again, but when I got back he had died. the others seemed fine though. I feel like a bad fish-mom but I decided that I should let the other 2 stay out there and I was going to have the carpet changed as long as the tank was empty.

Over the weekend the temp got into the high 30s (wtf?? this is Texas?!?!?!) and I go to check on them, and the big silver pacy is upside down and looks dead, with the black one next to it, also looking dead (but right side up) I go to scoop them out, and they slowly swim off. I put them both in this big rubbermaid wheeled cart, about 1/4 full of the cold water, and wheel it inside, thinking I'm going to slowly siphon the warm indoor water into this, so they don't get shocked by the temp change (their tank isn't ready, so they're getting thrown in the other 150 gallon with all the cichlids). Well, as I add the water, they're starting to move aruond more, and the silver one turns right side up and starts swimming more normally. I feel brilliant, and am happy that I have saved my pacus (despite I was 'saving' them from my own neglect... but let's not dwell on that). Turns out I'm about as brilliant as that rubbermaid cart is watertight, so I end up with a saturated area rug, but two alive and back to normal pacus knocking everything over in my 'pretty' plants rocks and driftwood tank, it looks like a pair of giants in there,and the cichlids look very confused.

I really want to give them more room, and am toying with the idea of buidlng an indoor pond. How is the evaporation issue indoors? it would be in the 2 story vaulted living room. I'd rather build a huge tank with a viewing window, but the pond idea would be so much cheaper/easier. Any thoughts (and yes, I love the DIY section!!)
 

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redrider105;2429576; said:
hello, I own a 9" pacu and a 8" oscar there in a 55 gallon tank and are fine for now. I also have a large koi pond. Been thinking about building another pond and stocking it with pacus and oscars and arowanas and red tailed catfish. But some pet stores say this will work fine but some say it wont. I live in north florida and the temperature can range from 90 in the summer to 20 in the winter think the cold weather could be a problem? Any help is greatly appreciated!
You would be fine in the summer but not too good in the winter.
Those fish need warmer water temperatures.
 

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Go for the indoor pond...you see them all the time in offices and such...the temperature difference between room temp and water temp will only be 10-12 degrees not too bad to heat...as far as evaporation some kind silica gel appliances are made for that...
 

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6000, pond should be fine for an rtc the chance for it to get as big as the one in the photo are not very likly as the one in the photo is wild from a massive river with infinite amounts of food, your only problem is the temperature
 

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zennzzo;2433264; said:
I can only guess how hard and ferocious that RTC hits a bait...



Fishing in the small South American country of Suriname, roughly the size of the state he’s from, Scott Swanson, of Hiawassee, Georgia, USA, landed a redtail catfish (pirarara) (Phractocephalus hemioliopterus) weighing in at 47.17 kg (104 lb 0 oz) while fishing the Kabalebo River. It took him 25 minutes to capture the fish on 37 kg (80 lb) class line. It could be a big jump in the record books as the current line class record is 42 lb 1 oz caught this past August 18th.
 

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Oldsgirl;2435422; said:
I'm the worst at keeping it short... so here's the cliffs notes: I live it Houston, it usually does't get THAT cold down here, last year my 1500 gal pond's temp got to the high 50s at its coldest point, but this past weekend, the air temp was in the high 30s (coudlnt find the thermometer to check water temp) and my pacus almost died. Read on for the longer version. I'm sure you could heat a pond, but I'm also sure it would be super expensive to do.

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With the power out after the hurricane here, my biggest Pacu was dead when I returned to myhouse and the others (1 more red belly, 1 black pacu, and an Oscar) were looking really bad. I put them all out in my 1500 above ground pond on the deck, because even though there were no pumps working out there, I figured the bigger volume would give them the best chance to survive. They did fine out there, and seemed fine with the koi/goldfish as well. I talked to a coworker about leaving them out there for the winter and he said they woudlnt make it (I kept track last year, and I think the lowest the water temp got was in the high 50s).

Well, I decide to drain the tank and move it while the monsters are in the pond, plus they're doing fine, so I figure I'll bring them in 'one of these days'. It starts getting cooler, and I look and the oscar has a sort of sore on his head with a hazy film over it. I decide as soon as I get back in town (leaving for the weekend) I was going to set up their tank again, but when I got back he had died. the others seemed fine though. I feel like a bad fish-mom but I decided that I should let the other 2 stay out there and I was going to have the carpet changed as long as the tank was empty.

Over the weekend the temp got into the high 30s (wtf?? this is Texas?!?!?!) and I go to check on them, and the big silver pacy is upside down and looks dead, with the black one next to it, also looking dead (but right side up) I go to scoop them out, and they slowly swim off. I put them both in this big rubbermaid wheeled cart, about 1/4 full of the cold water, and wheel it inside, thinking I'm going to slowly siphon the warm indoor water into this, so they don't get shocked by the temp change (their tank isn't ready, so they're getting thrown in the other 150 gallon with all the cichlids). Well, as I add the water, they're starting to move aruond more, and the silver one turns right side up and starts swimming more normally. I feel brilliant, and am happy that I have saved my pacus (despite I was 'saving' them from my own neglect... but let's not dwell on that). Turns out I'm about as brilliant as that rubbermaid cart is watertight, so I end up with a saturated area rug, but two alive and back to normal pacus knocking everything over in my 'pretty' plants rocks and driftwood tank, it looks like a pair of giants in there,and the cichlids look very confused.

I really want to give them more room, and am toying with the idea of buidlng an indoor pond. How is the evaporation issue indoors? it would be in the 2 story vaulted living room. I'd rather build a huge tank with a viewing window, but the pond idea would be so much cheaper/easier. Any thoughts (and yes, I love the DIY section!!)
ii would love to see pics of pond and pacus if you have any...sounds like you have been through so much but i am happy to hear the pacus made out okay;...
 
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