I have an L-114 11 inches. I bought him on-line for $405 with shipping. The cons would not harrass him with his hooks and spikes very long. Big psuedas are very difficult to find and as you can see very expensive. The liitle guys hide a lot when small and will not touch algae as they are carnivourous. Also cons would harrass the hell out of them. If you like your cons then get a sailfin or common. Make sure the pleco is larger than the cons by a lot. Convicts are probally the toughest cichlid for thier size.