Piranha Live Feeding Ethics Thread.

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But any intelligence at all tells you three things especially when dealing with pirahnas , 1- in most climates other than their own they cant survive for a full year, much less breed.

2- If they could, and would go on this violent killing spree through our waterways they would eat themselves to death

3- without a full school meaning dozens of fish they cant take down an animal larger than a rabbit
 
sorry im not arguing with you i just kinda feel that instead of , for lack of a better term, "hating on" the people who video tape and or watch videos of these fish efforts should be made to inform idiot politicians and soccer moms the truth behind the myths.
 
Hdeuce;2006572; said:
But any intelligence at all tells you three things especially when dealing with pirahnas , 1- in most climates other than their own they cant survive for a full year, much less breed.

2- If they could, and would go on this violent killing spree through our waterways they would eat themselves to death

3- without a full school meaning dozens of fish they cant take down an animal larger than a rabbit
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once again, those are facts known by piranha keepers, not the general public... check out opefe.com or talk to any serious piranha collectors and i am sure that you would understand what i am talking about
 
Hdeuce;2006575; said:
sorry im not arguing with you i just kinda feel that instead of , for lack of a better term, "hating on" the people who video tape and or watch videos of these fish efforts should be made to inform idiot politicians and soccer moms the truth behind the myths.
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that is a wonderful idea, but the fact remains that most of the people that buy piranhas hold about as much knowledge of these fish as your average soccer mom or politician.
 
thats not true im not a pirahna keeper im the gerneral public. Ive never done research on a pirahna Ive never owned a pirahna. Its common sense. The problem is that people dont use it when they are scared. Thats why education of the public is more important than hiding the truth behind the animals.
 
Hdeuce;2006594; said:
thats not true im not a pirahna keeper im the gerneral public. Ive never done research on a pirahna Ive never owned a pirahna. Its common sense. The problem is that people dont use it when they are scared. Thats why education of the public is more important than hiding the truth behind the animals.
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no offense, but if you have never owned a piranha, then what the hell are you doing arguing about piranha behavior?

one of the first things that piranha keepers learn after getting their first piranhas is that every perception that they had before they got their piranhas was totally wrong.

i get a little annoyed by new piranha keepers regurgitating information that they found on care sheets and arguing those facts to the point where they can be a bit offensive, especially when they have no personal experience to back those facts up, so obviously i find it pretty funny that you are trying to argue about piranha behavior with me.
 
Im not arguing about pirahna behavior im arguing about the fact that you are taking the same viewpoint as the idiots in congress who ban the animals because they scare people. "The videos make these animals look vicious" . The fact is that the animals can be and should be regarded as though they are, and if everyone regarded dangerous animals as dangerous animals there would be no problems with them and therefore no ban on them. The truth of the matter is that trying to hide the true nature of a dangerous animal does more to keep them banned. The best way to show the world that dangerous animals can be kept safely is to educate the world on how dangerous that animal is and how it should be kept safely . You arent helping your cause by expecting people to hide the fact that a pirahna eats live food and has teeth. Everyone already knows this .
 
obviously piranhas eat live fish, but so do oscars and most SA/CA cichlids, do you see politicians and the general public pushing to make these fish illegal? the fact of the matter is that there are are a dozen SA/CA cichlids that are far more aggressive than piranhas, they would attack anything that hits the water ten times faster than a piranha, a fact that has been brought to piranha keepers attention by many a cichlid keeper.

your arguments are well taken, but they are ridiculous at best... please leave the state of the piranha keeping hobby, as well as the current theories related to piranha behavior up to those that know what they are talking about.
 
You still arent getting it. The problem people have with pirahnas has nothing to do with aggression. People have problems with pirahnas because they have a mouth full of teeth and they look scary. That wont change. The best way to relieve people of their fears is to educate them. Not to hide the fact that a pirahna can eat a mouse. You say that my arguments are rediculous. The truth is its rediculous to think that if noone ever videotaped there pirahna eating, people would be less scared of it. If you really believe that videotaping a live feeding is what made them pass legislation on the legality of pirahna keeping, or that its what keeps it illegal, then you are the one with the rediculous view on this subject. It doesnt matter how many more pirahnas than me you have.
 
if you did a bit of research, you would find that people have fought to keep piranhas legal or to make piranhas legal in certain states, and the biggest obstacle that they have had to overcome is the public perception of piranhas as bloodthirsty killers.

you are arguing a point that you obviously know nothing about with someone that has followed this fight for years... you keep saying that i don't get it, but i'm sure that if you asked the other respected members in this forum, they would inform you that you are the one that has no idea what he is talking about.
 
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