PLEASE HELP FIGURE THIS OUT!

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Have you tested your water?
No
If I did not test my water...
  1. ...I recognize that I will likely be asked to do a test, and that water tests are critical for solving freshwater health problems.
Do you do water changes?
Yes
What percentage of water do you change?
51-60%
How frequently do you change your water?
Infrequently; more than a month between changes
If I do not change my water...
  1. ...I recognize that I will likely be recommended to do a water change, and water changes are critical for preventing future freshwater health problems.
I Have a 100 gallon fresh water aquarium that’s I’ve had running for 3 years no issues running an aqua clear 110 3 stage filter ( sponge carbon and ammonia media ) . This aquarium was home to my pride and joy shovelnose catfish almost 2 foot a jack Dempsey and pacu with no issues for years . All of a sudden I started to notice the pacu eyes became cloudy and the catfish seemed to have a slime white substance on his body . Almost over night the catfish developed large holes all over his body before passing . I cleaned the tank out switched the filter did a 60% water change . The pacu and Dempsey have been good pacu eyes even began to clear up. My wife decided to surprise me with a smaller clown loach , clown knifefish and two pelvis for the tank . She put them in yesterday within 12 hours there eyes started to cloud bodies grew slime and 24 hours later all dead included pelcos. I have tested my water and it’s not the best but nothing super crazy either. I’m not sure what to do or what to treat for someone help. Do we think melofix is the answer?!?
 
For that bio load monthly water charge is definitely not enough. Test your water ammonia/nitites/nitrates. Get a 50gallon tub fill it from the tap and treat it with de chlorinator seachem safe or similar product. Add a heater set to your tanks temp and an air stone. Do a 30% water change the next day. Refill and treat again. Test water and repeat every 2-3 days until they are looking healthy again. Change your water 30-50% weekly to avoid any future ammonia burns and to keep your nitrates at near zero.
 
Poor Fish. What do you mean "You switched the filter out?"
Even if you had a 300G with only the Pacu you would still need to do 2-3 50% WC a week
I have a 6" 125G with only 2 10in fish and they get 3 80% WC a week.
IME WC can save so much time, money, and stress. fish stay healthier, happy, and you usually don't have to buy meds or stress yourself out or the fish.
"DO A WC AND SAVE A FISH"
 
Hello; I go along with the water change suggestions. I also would like to know what substrate, if any, you have? If it is sand and it is over an inch deep you could have toxic pockets due to anaerobic bacteria. But most likely too many big fish in a large tank.
 
If that pacu has been in the tank from the start he should be well over 2ft in three years . It’s a 100g tank so he should be touching two sides easily . Yet you are questioning why you have problems????
Sorry but I think you may have some more serious questions to consider first.
 
I cleaned the tank out switched the filter did a 60% water change

I have tested my water and it’s not the best but nothing super crazy either.

your test should be 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites. Nitrate should be as close to zero you can achieve and no more than 40ppm.

I have a 6" 125G with only 2 10in fish and they get 3 80% WC a week.

A 50% water change every other day with those fish in such a tiny tank( to keep them healthy), would not be overkill.
Hello; After the onslaught you, the OP, have gone dark in this thread. I am guessing you hoped for some suggestions other than what were received. Here is my current take. That you cleaned the up the tank and changed out the filter, then did a 60% water change (WC) suggests a misunderstanding of the function of a filter and the nature of the beneficial bacteria (bb).
Since the OP may have checked out due to what he may have felt has been harsh treatment from us the following might be a primer for other less experienced fish keepers. First thing we judgmental old hands might educate about might be filters. I start with an understanding much will be left out as i do not wish to write a book.
The main purpose of a filter system is the mechanical filtration (polishing) of the water. Many if not most also like to add that filters are home sites for bb colonies. The bb can and do live on the surfaces of a filter. A thing is the bb also can and do live on surfaces everywhere in a tank. Witness that many of us have run cycled tanks using only simple bubbler operated sponge filters. The bb form colonies just fine.
Now one of my speculative takes is the bb may be more concentrated on surfaces which have moving water on or near them. This notion would make a power filter a prime area for bb colonies. The surfaces would include the tubes and boxlike container walls as well as the dedicated materials we stick into power filters for the exact purpose of being homes for the bb. Ceramic "bio" balls, plastic "bio" grids and such. I even used glass marbles in a large HOB back in the 1970's which worked well.
Here is one of my contrarian ideas. I try to have layers of media in a filter. The first layer is some sort of floss or material intended to be a mechanical filter to catch and hold detritus of the tank. Also filter material which I intend to and do throw away from time to time. My thinking being that detritus is often rotting organics and fish poo. Stuff i want removed from my tanks. Some on here are dedicated to the practice of reusing such material rather than throwing it away and replacing with new. I follow the reasoning but contend there is greater value in disposal over reuse.
The idea is there are bb living in that first layer of filter floss and throwing the floss away is also discarding the bb. I do agree some small percentage of bb may be in that material. My reasoning being the greater percentage of bb colonies will be elsewhere in the tank. That the small percentage lost is not critical as long as not too much is tossed at one time. One of my favored filters in a HOB with two filter chambers. I have initial layers of throw away floss with some sort of more "bio" friendly material behind. When i toss the dirty first layer I do not clean that secondary bio layer. I also only toss the floss from one side of the HOB at one time. I wait a couple of weeks before tossing the floss from the other side.

Back to the OP's issue. I gather he changed out filter material when his fish began to be damaged. likely was the wrong move since the speculation seem to be the fish were suffering from ammonia burns. With ammonia in a tank (which appears supported by the OP's mention that the water tested out "not the best") the filters should have been left alone. Only the WC was helpful.

Let me leave with a homework assignment for someone. There is a notion floating around which goes something like the more power filter we have then the more or bigger fish we can keep? true or not?
 
Not True During Hurricane Sandy i lost power for a week and just used 2 battery sponge filters in a 125 gallon tank with a 12in Gold Barred Midas and like 5 of his brothers and sister who all ranged between 5-8in and did 80% WC a day and all was fine.
I believe you can run a large tank with just a sponge but WC are daily
 
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