I've personally seen a 14" male as well. Very large and can be an extremely aggressive fish. As others have stated, BAD idea.NorCaliCichlids;5146768; said:Waaaay to small a tank even with the 180. I had a pair and the male hit 14" in a 135. They can be very aggressive as well, a lot more so than I ever thought before keeping them. If you get rid of all your other stuff and go with all parrots it can make for a nice display but you need a big tank.