Silver dollars.. what exactly do they eat in the wild?

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SD's are typically gluttonous pigs, and in the wild will probably eat most anything that remotely appears to be food. lol If you are looking for a "green" supplement, unsalted Nori from the local Asian market is a good low cost alternative to growing your own, but either way with SD's I would feed an aquatic based plant, not something of terrestrial origin.



While certain species do consume terrestrial based plant matter during certain times of the year (such as the rainy season) these foods are typically not the same as some of what's being described in this discussion. As an example, raw peas are anything but excellent for fish.

Peas must be processed first, as they contain anti-nutritional matter, such as tannins, protease inhibitors, saponins, cyanogens, and phytic acid, which when consumed in excess can have a very negative effect on the growth & overall health of fish. The same holds true for most terrestrial based plant matter that finds its way into hobbyist tanks, such as soybeans, corn, wheat, etc. This is a prime example of a cooked ingredient being better for a fish than the same ingredient in a raw (organic?) state, and why we shouldn't attempt to extrapolate the information regarding what a fish consumes in its natural habitat (seeds/nuts), to something that we purchase at the local grocery store.

See post #35 in the following past discussion for a more detailed explanation.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/diy-fish-food.462584

All of this has been well documented in commercial aquaculture for many years.




In the wild many fish instinctively seek out certain plants, seeds, nuts, that are higher in protein, and lower in carbohydrates/starch, and often only consume these raw foodstuffs when higher quality amino acid sources are limited. They are not always choosing these foodstuffs in the wild due to the nutritional value in the food, but more typically due to its seasonal availability.
 
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Oh Really? Where's the link? Because peas and spinach are excellent for fishes. Not to mentioned that lot of fish species feed on terrestrial plants during flooding season.

I thought it was common knowledge submerged macropphytes were nutritional superior in regard to vitamin counts, calcium, phosphurus and trace elements...
 
I couldn't agree more, RD! Well said, and great thread. A lot of good info there. I'll probably cook the veggies more often this time around and feed vegetables as weekend snacks. Not every other day or something.. The same applies to all of us too when it comes down to nutrition and health. Vital that we avoid anti-nutrients, gluten, high GI diets, inflammatory foods, artificial colors, preservatives, etc ourselves as well. :-]

Anyway, I knew it.. of course, terrestrial foods just ain't for fish.. even if it's a seasonal source for them. Their main diet must be consisting of aquatic plants, aquatic worms, inverts, etc like that in the wild. :D Now if I could go find out what they usually chow down on exactly!! Haha. Harvest a little bit of those aquatic plants, go all out and farm them in my planted tanks and feed trimmings to them along with some frozen worms, insects too. Bam! Nailed it.

I got an idea. Sounds crazy, but then.. what you think of feeding.. fermented vegetables?? Ever heard of that? I'm sure you guys have. Kimchi, Sauerkraut, Kefir, etc.. Research about it. So supposedly all of the troublesome antinutrients in the vegetables being fermented would be neutralized by probiotics, so the fish would more easily digest them, plus they get some good beneficial bacteria in their guts! :-] Some sauerkraut cabbage for fish anyone? Ha!! Seriously though, has anybody ever attempted feeding fermented vegetables? Haha might be too sour for fish to handle eh. On the other hand, even though I think this might work, but in the end.. it's still terrestrial though; just easier to digest since the bacteria has broken down the hard-to-digest materials in vegetables and antinutrients, but yeh, it's still not good as and cannot be compared to their natural wild diet on a daily basis of course.. Pros and cons to everything.. Must be a balance and lotta variety.
 
I don't know if SD's will eat it but have you tried the hated Duck weed. Super easy to grow and should be a good aquatic plant. One can only asume that the wate in South America must be covered in it too.
 
My sd's love duckweed, grow it in a tub outside, and toss in a handful every couple of days, normally gone in 24 hours
 
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Cool ideas. Thanks, fellas.
 
Wonder if pearsei and viejas will eat the duckweed.

Whats tbe fastest way to grow it
 
Good lights a tank with fish and a sponge filter a small bag of uck weed and try and stop it from growing. A small ampunt of aquarium plant fertilizer may speed it up. Be sure you don't get it tanks you want the surface clean on. This stuff grows fast like a weed LOL.
 
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