South American habitat-- river types
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Duane and few other knowledgeable members like yourself should have published books imo. Like I stated in a earlier post a wealth of info here. I was very green when I joined MFK. Thanks to you all I'm a much better aquarist.Good info, thanks Duane. Any chance you can get this made into a sticky?
Seems a LOT more relevant to sound husbandry of these fish than "what is the most aggressive SA/CA cichlid", that is still a sticky at the top of this folder.
Thanks, but I'm not worthy. lol But IMO threads like this are exactly what keeps MFK going above and beyond other social media circles.
neutrino
did a fantastic job putting this topic together, and the additional info just adds another layer of icing to the cake.
neutrino
did a fantastic job putting this topic together, and the additional info just adds another layer of icing to the cake.
Outstanding thread!
What an incredible concept, i.e. promoting ideas that should be obvious to anyone applying common sense while simply looking at a map of the entire huge continent of South America...or Africa, or anywhere else...
It's always humorous to read about a new aquarist who has decided that a "biotope" is the way to go...and so they combine species from lowland jungle rivers, mountain streams, coastal brackish water and who-knows-what-else...and then say "Hey, look, everybody! I've got a South America biotope!"
What an incredible concept, i.e. promoting ideas that should be obvious to anyone applying common sense while simply looking at a map of the entire huge continent of South America...or Africa, or anywhere else...
It's always humorous to read about a new aquarist who has decided that a "biotope" is the way to go...and so they combine species from lowland jungle rivers, mountain streams, coastal brackish water and who-knows-what-else...and then say "Hey, look, everybody! I've got a South America biotope!"
Not so sure about the "I'm not worthy" part. In any case you added some great posts to this thread.Thanks, but I'm not worthy. lol But IMO threads like this are exactly what keeps MFK going above and beyond other social media circles.
I agree. I explain pretty this same story at least once a week to customers asking about keeping species like altums in hard water. Linking to this topic would be a huge time saver.Would someone please make this topic in to a sticky?
To most advanced aquarists, the different water type regions, varying water parameters within large continents, like South America and Africa are well known, and many of these advanced fish keepers can deal with, because of their vast experience.
They are the choir, and hardly need preaching to, by me or anyone else. They have developed techniques that often go well beyond statistical norms, less experienced aquarists can't.
But.....
I don't believe we do noobs any favors , or even semi inexperienced aquarists any favors by espousing those abilities are something that they cannot easily achieve.
If a noob goes and spends $5 on an aquarium strain angel, and puts it in liquid rock, with a successful mbuna tank, that may be "arguably" OK for a minute.
But if that same noob thinks buying an Altum for $60 and tosses it into a hard water, high pH tank, and expect success, that rate may be less than 30% it will last a week.
We all saw the post by a noob thinking a 55 gal gal was being "bold" by cramming an oscar, and arowana, and a number or large cats in that tiny puddle of high pH, hard water.
To me, this is the type individual that represents the reality of who we are really trying to inform,.
And not being succinct enough with certain parameter norms and info that experienced aquarists can overcome, is not helpful .
They are the choir, and hardly need preaching to, by me or anyone else. They have developed techniques that often go well beyond statistical norms, less experienced aquarists can't.
But.....
I don't believe we do noobs any favors , or even semi inexperienced aquarists any favors by espousing those abilities are something that they cannot easily achieve.
If a noob goes and spends $5 on an aquarium strain angel, and puts it in liquid rock, with a successful mbuna tank, that may be "arguably" OK for a minute.
But if that same noob thinks buying an Altum for $60 and tosses it into a hard water, high pH tank, and expect success, that rate may be less than 30% it will last a week.
We all saw the post by a noob thinking a 55 gal gal was being "bold" by cramming an oscar, and arowana, and a number or large cats in that tiny puddle of high pH, hard water.
To me, this is the type individual that represents the reality of who we are really trying to inform,.
And not being succinct enough with certain parameter norms and info that experienced aquarists can overcome, is not helpful .
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I respectfully disagree. Of all the sites out there, this is the one place where serious hobbyists should be able to get no nonsense factual information. Since when was MFK a site designed for just entry level hobbyists?
Exactly. It’s posts like these that keep me coming back to MFK.Good info, thanks Duane. Any chance you can get this made into a sticky?
Seems a LOT more relevant to sound husbandry of these fish than "what is the most aggressive SA/CA cichlid", that is still a sticky at the top of this folder.
Great read and great info.
