Spider Wire - Stealth Braid

[calgaryflames]

try it with a flurocarbon leader you will catch bigger fish i swear they see braided lines,but you guys are probably fishing bass in heavy cover right

 

[Deep Blue Sea]

Spider wire is crazy good! I use it on all my reels and it works great! 65lb is as thick as 15lb mono and its alot stronger then the package says. Best thing to put on your reel in my opinion

 

[Spearo]

I have been fishing for a long time, and have worked at a tackle/gun shop before.
So let me see if I can help.

Before switching over to braided, I would recommend trying out Trilene XL. The XL stands for xtra limp and tends to be much lower memory than the XT (Xtra tough).
If you want to go braided, I would recommend a topshot of mono or fluoro.

Generally, most guys only go straight braid if they are throwing jogs or surface poppers. The reason I would recommend a topshot (10-15ft), is because the fish can see the braided line.

As for braided lines, no two are alike. In my honest opinion (and that of my former co-workers) Spyderwire is absolute garbage. The braid on it sucks.
Much better choices would be Izorline braid or Powerpro.

You can connect the topshot to the braid by using a uni to uni knot. For the braid I would recommend double the wraps, because it is slippery. Also do not forget to wet the knot before cinching. Braid tends to produce a lot of friction upon cinching. Which in turn produces heat, and can damage the underlying mono or fluro.

Good luck,
Spearo

 

[pupumole]

i use like 60lb spiderwire on my baitcaster plugging setup xD and i fail at casting, but i have to say, it is much better than trying to cast with mono

 

[likestofish]

try it with a flurocarbon leader you will catch bigger fish i swear they see braided lines,but you guys are probably fishing bass in heavy cover right

Nope i used to think i do but i havent used a leader bass fishing finesse worms they ate them up just fine, if you use a darker color they really dont notice much because its so thin. Also its not that it looses all its strength at the knot, but that it slips through the knot. So just double up the line when you tie it.

 

[Batboi3000]

I was told that the fire line is pretty good too but i couldn't tell if it was actually a braided line or just an overpriced monofillament. I have also seen and heard of power pro and I thought about getting that instead. I just bought some of the spiderwire stealth at Walmart and in looking at the braided line the spiderwire spool had 15 more yards of string on it then the power pro for the exact same price. This stealth I bought is a darker greenish hew too it. I spooled up my reel last night and put the whole 125 yards of the spool on. I haven't had a chance to even cast it in the yard to try it out but this afternoon will probably bring a test run.

The waters I fish are pretty dirty. Typically when I am targetting bass it is in fairly heavy cover around a weed bed or in and around trees, bouncing worms off rocks. I have never heard or thought of using a mono or floro leader on the end. What is the deal with florocarbon anyway? Why is that so great?

 

[oscarcrazy]

You will no problem with your braided line. Just remember that 10 lb test is still 10 lb test. Aslo, if you switch back to mono, just remember to switch out the line before the start of each season.

 

[Spearo]

I was told that the fire line is pretty good too but i couldn't tell if it was actually a braided line or just an overpriced monofillament.

What is the deal with florocarbon anyway? Why is that so great?

Fireline is basically braid coated with mono. Not very good IMO, and very few people buy it.

As for fluorocarbon line...read this.
http://www.georgepoveromo.com/fluorocarbon.htm

It should sum it up pretty good. Most of us fishermen here on the West Coast will never go on a trip without it.

No one ever spools their whole real with fluoro. We only use it as leader material. Anywhere from 6-15ft is most common. I fish braid with a topshot of mono or fluoro on all of my reels.

The reasoning behind it, is braid has zero stretch. So it provides for better hooksets and sensitivity. We also fish around kelp beds here in CA. Braid cuts through the kelp like a knife when a fish is pulling it through.

Lastly, most of my saltwater reels hold a large capacity of line.
My topshots are usually about 80-100yards of mono (P-line is my favorite).
The rest under the topshot is about 350-400yards of braid.
When it comes time to change my line, it only costs me about $2 to change out the 100yds of mono.
Braid is good for 8-10+ years. I have some reels with braid on them, that I put on over 8-9 years ago. Stuff is still like new.

So braid is initially an expensive investment, but it pays itself off after a season or two.

When having your braid put on, it must be wound on VERY tightly.
My coworkers and I used leather gloves to put it on, and it would burn holes in the gloves.

If you do not wind the braid on tightly... when you hook up a big fish, and your drag is tight. The braid is so thin and slippery, it will cut into itself. The result will be your reel jamming, and maybe your rod getting yanked out of your hand.

This is one of the main reasons I do not recommend braid for spinning reels. It never goes back on tight enough, and casts like a monkey flinging poo.

 

[Spearo]

Aslo, if you switch back to mono, just remember to switch out the line before the start of each season.

True....

However, mono may also have to be switched out after every trip.
If you go on a trip and are fishing 20lb test, and you catch a couple 30-40lb fish, you can bet that mono is going to be stretched out and weakened.

One of the main properties of mono is that it stretches. After every fish, it becomes weakened.

So don't only switch your mono out at the beginning of each season, but by the necessity of the situation.

 

[calgaryflames]

If your serious about fishing you are supposed to change your line every time.all braided lines are garbage.I tried them before and my catchs decreased alot.I switched on my other spool of fluorocarbon and started to catch fisg right away in the same hole.



I did a test in my large fish tank with my peacock bass.I broke a hook off a jigg.Tried mono fluoro and fireline which is the least visible of all braided lines.The bass pounded the jigg on fluoro and mono but wouldnt touch it with the braided fireline.