Stocking Question- what would you do?
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I actually deleted a part of my post suggesting a vulture catfish, ultimately thought a 130g would be too small for an adult vulture. In my opinion it's a little tight for any suitably sized bottom dwellers+2 adult oscars. There are some midsized pims like ornatus or goldiella which could still potentially be eaten. Some of the larger growing synodontis cats could be good like angelicus, batensoda, or the commonly available eupterus as long as it is of substantial size when introducing and you provide a log or something for it to hunker under. I've actually seen this combo in action at a LFS demo tank for years now--large adult Oscar with a supersize batensoda 10"+ in a ~125g tank
Big issue will be temperament of the oscars. If one or both are particularly nasty or if they pair and start to breed there will be nowhere safe in that small tank for any bottom feeder. They might not kill it but it will not have a fun life being harassed, fins, whiskers, and eyeballs nipped, and chased around constantly when the Os are bored. Could work with sufficient space and hiding spots though.
Agree with RD and others that limiting that size tank to just the 2 oscars would probably be the best scenario.
130 gals is not a lot of territorial water, even if adding a small sump, compared to the acre of territory an oscar in nature would command.
I have a 180 gal tank with a 125 gal tank as a planted sump/refugium to buffer the build up of chronic nitrates, and would find the idea of 2 full grown oscars in it, to be over the top territorially and space wise.
130 gals is not a lot of territorial water, even if adding a small sump, compared to the acre of territory an oscar in nature would command.
I have a 180 gal tank with a 125 gal tank as a planted sump/refugium to buffer the build up of chronic nitrates, and would find the idea of 2 full grown oscars in it, to be over the top territorially and space wise.
I would not advise a pictus in a O tank i tried it once years ago and the O tried to eat the pictus and died because the pictus spines got stuck in the O
Pictus cats can be used as bottom feeders for Oscar tanks...as long as you are referring to feeders that stay on the bottom until eaten. Even then, their spines make them risky, as stated above. Oscars will use absolutely every cubic inch of that tank, top to bottom.
Otherwise, I would agree with the general trend of the above posts, i.e. even with only two Oscars this tank will be stocked pretty heavily. Any trips back to the LFS at this point should be for purposes of returning one of those Oscars, IMHO. And I would expect to be doing at least 100% of the water in that tank at least once a week in the near future.
Don't make the common mistake of buying Oscars...or any other fish...at a small size, and then looking at your tank and deciding "Oh, yeah, I have tons of room...I need more fish!" You don't...and you don't. Those Oscars are going to grow like wildfire, and two of them in that tank will rapidly progress from "too sparse" to "that looks nice!" and then continue right on through to "Geez...that tank is crowded!" Those big logs of poop they will be scattering around represent only a fraction of the waste that they actually excrete into that tank. Surf the net for a few pics of big Oscars...and by "big", I don't mean 6 or 7 or 8 inches, because they get much larger than that, and they do it fast.
Think ahead.
Otherwise, I would agree with the general trend of the above posts, i.e. even with only two Oscars this tank will be stocked pretty heavily. Any trips back to the LFS at this point should be for purposes of returning one of those Oscars, IMHO. And I would expect to be doing at least 100% of the water in that tank at least once a week in the near future.
Don't make the common mistake of buying Oscars...or any other fish...at a small size, and then looking at your tank and deciding "Oh, yeah, I have tons of room...I need more fish!" You don't...and you don't. Those Oscars are going to grow like wildfire, and two of them in that tank will rapidly progress from "too sparse" to "that looks nice!" and then continue right on through to "Geez...that tank is crowded!" Those big logs of poop they will be scattering around represent only a fraction of the waste that they actually excrete into that tank. Surf the net for a few pics of big Oscars...and by "big", I don't mean 6 or 7 or 8 inches, because they get much larger than that, and they do it fast.
Think ahead.
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Striped Raphaels did make a couple extra searches for compatibility and think they could make a cool tank impact!
Great to know, thank you for the advice!
Thank you for this. I do agree and that was the original intent of this thread- if you were in this position, what would you do or how would you manage etc. at this point, I do not believe I will be adding anything. I’m going to see how everything balances out as the Oscars grow. This is not my first tank or go around, just a new position with having 2 young Oscars. I also have an empty 150 but it’s a 5’ long and I don’t have a great spot for it. Wanted to get this 130 set up because it has a place for display in our house. Thanks again!
Noted! lolOk, I stand corrected many times, let’s focus on the first half of the sentence when I said keep it as is if you can keep up with the maintenance.