Super Red Asian Arowana Breeder

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CheckJr;1191195; said:
Hi hatorhanzoe,
from what I gathered, there's a huge community for Asian Arowana enthusiast in Canada. But I'm not quite understand about 'importing ONE fish to EACH hobbyist'. Are you suggesting that we give away ONE fish for EVERY hobbyist in Canada to promote our farm? (cause that would be a lot of money :))
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No, I mean by selling ONE fish if ONE hobbyist wants to buy one from you guys. Most, or actually all farms require a minimum of more than 10 fishes. There are a few exceptions of some farms that sells one fish and ship it, but I asked and the price of that is matching LFS in Canada, not a good deal. Why would Canadian hobbyist want to order a fish from abroad when they pay the same price, no special deals and even more they have pay a lot of legal fees to attain the proper CITES paper work and wait 3 weeks.

I am look at more than 2000 dollars CND alone from most of the farms I inquired about. Could you imagine? 1500 USD for one fish to be shipped to Canada not including taxes, applying for permits and even shipping charges!
1500 for xback or a red by the way. I think farms should start to think a bit more logical in pricing and marketing if they want to export to other countries specially Canada. Or just stick with selling within the southern Asian countries.
 
I personally have never shipped Arowanas to Canada. Mostly to Asian countries and sometimes to UK. I think the requirement for a minimum order is because the cost and complexity of shipping 10 fishes is almost the same as 1 fish. As 1 container can hold about 10. Therefore they tried to minimise the shipping fee by dividing it into 10. And the cost for legal papers and everything can be reduced if the number is bigger. USD 1500 for a super red is still acceptable depending on the size,age and special characteristics. That kind of price is still acceptable even in the local market. What is the size of the super red arowana that you were referring to? and how old are they?
 
Meanwhile, here are pictures of 33 cm arowana from my own tank that is being prepared for the annual competition. Just wanna share with fellow MFKs:

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CheckJr;1191643; said:
I personally have never shipped Arowanas to Canada. Mostly to Asian countries and sometimes to UK. I think the requirement for a minimum order is because the cost and complexity of shipping 10 fishes is almost the same as 1 fish. As 1 container can hold about 10. Therefore they tried to minimise the shipping fee by dividing it into 10. And the cost for legal papers and everything can be reduced if the number is bigger. USD 1500 for a super red is still acceptable depending on the size,age and special characteristics. That kind of price is still acceptable even in the local market. What is the size of the super red arowana that you were referring to? and how old are they?
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They are about 6-7 inches....1500USD for a red is not that acceptable. But if it is in third world countries and comparing to canada, I guess Canadians (asian hobbyist) are really not that wealthy to spend 1500USD on a fish.

And don't super reds are about $1000 Singapore money? or at least xback. Whats considered normal as you mention in local are probably extremely high quality that can be seen in 6-7 inchs large that would cost an approximate of
2200 SDG for a super red?

Luckly theres a group buy services in Canada and its picking up market shares and luckly they import 6-7 inchs reds for 1350 CDN including all shipping/tax and legal fees from Panda.

Also your pics on the red is nice, would you mind showing it in white light to show the true colours of the red?
 
hey checkjr!!, first off im happy that my video on arowana breeding has brought u here... welcome!!! unfortunately, im sorry coz those 2 aros i posted is not mine. i just wanted to share it to the people.

Were surely glad to have u here and to share and learn more and more about the magnificent species! :)
 
pardon my asian aro ignorance, but, do super reds occur naturally in the wild (specifically, the kapuas river in kalimantan, indonesia)? and since Scleropages formosus had been separated into several new species, what species of Scleropages is the super red? TIA.
(i'd also want to know what species the green asian aro is)
 
CheckJr,
Thanks for your PM but I am not really sure what to tell you..... I dont doubt you have an Aro farm but there are some questions arising. I mean sexing from physical differences and behaviour should be simple to anyone experienced or who keeps fish to commercially breed. Especially when you have so many large adults to compare. Dont you watch these fish daily? I do realise they are in a pond. For example, I dont keep Asian Aro (S. formosus) but I do keep and breed S. leichardi - or rather they breed for me since I dont go out of my way to breed them specifically - and they arent that hard for me to sex and are also quite easy to gently squeeze for milt. Cannulation is also a very straightforward & common aquaculture technique but if you are afraid to even squeeze your fish then this is not for you either. Most farm would have some inferior grade stock they can safely trial on too so again I am at a loss with your answer or how to help you.

I have uploaded an aquaculture article describing tank breeding of S. formosa for you. I cant link you directly to the site since theres an aquaculture membership requirement for access unfortunately. Please download asap since I dont know how long the files are kept at this mirror site.

http://sharedzilla.com/en/get?id=100995
 
I do want to observe a few other farms in SE Asia which breed some exotic fish so I would be happy to show you how to squeeze or cannulate fish when I visit ypur place if you wish. Some gentle trial and error is the best way though.
 
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