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in the end I nor can anyone control what UPS, Fedex etc.. does with the items once they leave the source that provided them.
I did my part. I was extremely diligent. I automatically made good on the orders.

Unfortunately, these issues will happen. Part of the ecommerce and shipping business. I unfortunately lost the actual fish, the money paid for the fish, and the next day air saturday delivery charges. Literally thousands of dollars overnight. Gone..


Sorry to read all that, Kevin. Here's to happier trails down the road in 2020.
 
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Hello all,
I have just been informed of this post so I will break it down for everyone.

Yes, UPS lost 5 separate packages on me.
All 5 were UPS Next Day Air Saturday
All 5 were in fact were taken into UPS possession at approximately 4:45pm est.

The driver so far as always scanned the packages when he takes them. Apparently, this time he did not. For what reason?? I cant answer that. I'm not him.
As for Wildcat "not" getting a tracking #. That is false. At 8:37pm est. He emailed me asking if I had shipped the jaguar cichlids. He tracked them with the tracking # instantly provided by ups when I create the label and he said it showed only that a label was created.
At 9:06pm I read his email and informed him that yes, infact they did ship.
At 9:12pm he replied back and I quote said "the tracking number you gave me says that the item is not in there possession yet? I spoke with a live UPS agent on the phone and she said the tracking number 1Z5907AVPGXXXXXX shows that it has not been dropped off yet? And she said it would be too late for them to deliver tomorrow"
At 9:14pm I replied again to him with a photo of all the packages I had going out for Saturday delivery.
At this point I was already on multiple calls and emails to UPS.
At 9:33pm I replied saying that I would guess when they reach a hub that they would be scanned. As I've seen that many times.
At 9:34pm he replied back saying "ok, thank you. Smart of you to take pictures"
I replied back at 9:46pm saying it do that for exactly this reason.

Now at 9:10AM today, he emailed me saying that the tracking number still says nothing.
He was right. I spent all night until 1am on phone with every hub the 5 packages were going to to see if they had any information. Zippo...

At 9:57am I replied again apologizing for UPS losing the package and that i was still working on it.

At 10:35am I sent out an email to all 5 of the customers with a photo of the actual packages. (See attached photo)

At 2:30 today I knew it was a total loss and issued refunds to everyone. I did not ask, I just did it.
Even if they do show up later today. They did not receive them as promised and I took it upon myself to issue the refunds.
I spoke with one of the customers on telephone and he asked not to refund but send him more fish.

In the end I nor can anyone control what UPS, Fedex etc.. does with the items once they leave the source that provided them.
I did my part. I was extremely diligent. I automatically made good on the orders.

Unfortunately, these issues will happen. Part of the ecommerce and shipping business. I unfortunately lost the actual fish, the money paid for the fish, and the next day air saturday delivery charges. Literally thousands of dollars overnight. Gone..

I wish everyone a Happy New Year

Kevin
Tangled Up in Cichlids

Sounds like they have a driver with a lot of explaining to do. Wonder if he’s a fish keeper?....
 
I just spoke with a few of the customer and they have told me that UPS Director or Operations has called them ALL personally to explain and apologize.

I stand by my customer service. I could not have been any more involved in this other than delivering the packages myself. .. which in fact if I was able to recover them from a local hub I had planned on personally delivering them to 2 of the closest customers.
The fish are from the same EXACT sources as Jeff, the equipment is the same, the ordering and shipping procedures are exaclty the same. I have not changed anything. The information on the website is a direct copy of the orginal put onto a shiny new page.
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At my job we recently changed from our own warehouse and drivers to a third party warehouse and courier system. It has basically been a disaster and harmed our reputation with our customers due to this sort of thing happen far too often. Unfortunately I know just how frustrated and helpless Kevin@TUIC Kevin@TUIC Would be feeling.
Also these things tend to happen more often during the holiday period.

I can also see how the OP would be very annoyed too, especially as live animals are involved, Wildcat157 Wildcat157 did the package eventually arrive? Alive or dead?
I would advise everybody to just chalk this up to experience and not get too upset about it, refunds have been issued so the business has done the right thing. These things do happen unfortunately.

Just checked out the new website, wish I could get some of these fish shipped here!
 
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Just saw this.

In regards to Kevin's post a few things....

#1. Everything he said was accurate.

#2. I'd like to add some addition facts and opinions.

>> It's 6:25 PM, and I have no fish.

>> The first tracking number I was issued had my incorrect mailing address and I had to call Kevin on the phone and have him change it. Which he promptly did. I then received a email saying the first tracking number was cancelled.

>> I was issued a second tracking number with my correct address that said "Shipment was ready for pickup". And that's what it still currently says. Tracking numbers are worthless unless point of origin is entered.

>> I did receive a call and spoke to John H. the North East director of sales for UPS. He apologized. I asked him some specific questions...

>> He confirmed that overnight Saturday delivery for my address was guaranteed by 12PM.

>> He said that all packages should have a origin scan at pickup but sometimes its not done. He is specifically looking into this driver.

>> When I raised the point of " What if the merchant/vendor specifically asked for the packages to be scanned?"

He said the driver would have / and should have met the merchants request.

>> There was only 5 small packages. That should have taken about 5 seconds with a hand held scanner to enter the point of origin into there multi billion dollar system.

>> He also said Kevin would receive a refund on his end.

>> He said that he had people looking around the hub, but without the origin scan in there computer it was difficult to find.

Kevin will be reimbursed, I will also be reimbursed.

I do believe that the risk of this debacle could have been lowered if it was insisted that these 5 packages were scanned by the driver.

I do hope the driver is spoken to about this.

Sincerely
 
The very thought of those poor fish sitting somewhere already dead or waiting to perish.
A few years ago I sold and sent a wolf fish to a fellow member via UPS and they lost the box.We were eventually reimbursed by the company but the experience nearly made me swear off shipping fish altogether.
 
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