Tire track eel vs fire eel

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If you want something thats not going to be "Advanced" keeping imo I would go with a Tire track.. like Ray broke it down while they are abit more reclusive then fires generally they tend to adapt to tank life much more readily. I would also suggest a tire track if you're keeping a more aggressive community of fish, Fires are generally gentle giants. there are exceptions but my fires did not do well with cichlids, while my tire track had little difficulty fitting in.

Also fire eels, and armatus tire tracks both are huge fish.. 30"+ is easily attainable imo if properly cared for. There are members on here with specimins of both species larger then 3' in iir 300+ gallon set-ups. a healthy fish of either of the 2 larger species can and willg row 1" or more per month when well fed and cared for, these fish will eat alot their first year.

On that note.. I would suggest a favrus ( patterned belly TT) or M dayii ( Black leopard eel) if you want something that will get good sized but not quite so beastly. You can expect these species to get in the 24" range in captivity, I have one that is roughly 20" at 2yrs. had her since she was about 5". I don't have much experiance with Favrus but there are a few around that have kept them long-term very suffessfully.

What SA species are you planning on keeping with them? I ask because some species are just bad tank-mates for spineys period.

If you do want a fire eel, be prepared for a fish that may never take prepared foods and may require live nightcrawlers it's entire life. though most do take to frozen krill, fish fillets, ect... many refuse to eat anything but nightcrawlers ( as is my experiance) reguardless of what spiney you go with I would also strongly suggest QT with live blackworms, and a round of Prazi-pro before adding it to any other set-up. Most spineys come in emmaciated and in poor health. often full of gill flukes and/or worms. I have never lost a spiney eel useing this QT method/husbandry practice. I free feed live black worms until they are around the 10" range and able to start eating cut up nightcrawlers, at this point I also introduce frozen krill, and other things. Or around 3monthes in my care.

Spiney eels generally jump for a few reasons. insufficent security places to hide, you can have a tank packed with hide spots but if the eel doesn't feel secure they will keep looking for a secure place. Poor water quality, these fish do not like excessively high nitrates and any change in water chemistry may stress them out and cause them to seek "greener pastures". to much aggression from tank-mates. And in a more simplified nutshell, Stress. A spiney that readily swims around it's tank and pokes its head out when you enter the room to see if you have food is likely an eel not going to try to jump.

Alot of people reccomed tapeing up your tank ect.. i personally do not. After the initial settling in period if your spiney is trying to jump out it needs its needs met better, because eventually it will find a way out. Ive had spineys jump, only once was it a random occurance. The rest where compleatly avoidable and it was my fault for not being more aware of the tank.

sorry if i was abit jumbled.
 
If you want something thats not going to be "Advanced" keeping imo I would go with a Tire track.. like Ray broke it down while they are abit more reclusive then fires generally they tend to adapt to tank life much more readily. I would also suggest a tire track if you're keeping a more aggressive community of fish, Fires are generally gentle giants. there are exceptions but my fires did not do well with cichlids, while my tire track had little difficulty fitting in.

Also fire eels, and armatus tire tracks both are huge fish.. 30"+ is easily attainable imo if properly cared for. There are members on here with specimins of both species larger then 3' in iir 300+ gallon set-ups. a healthy fish of either of the 2 larger species can and willg row 1" or more per month when well fed and cared for, these fish will eat alot their first year.

On that note.. I would suggest a favrus ( patterned belly TT) or M dayii ( Black leopard eel) if you want something that will get good sized but not quite so beastly. You can expect these species to get in the 24" range in captivity, I have one that is roughly 20" at 2yrs. had her since she was about 5". I don't have much experiance with Favrus but there are a few around that have kept them long-term very suffessfully.

What SA species are you planning on keeping with them? I ask because some species are just bad tank-mates for spineys period.

If you do want a fire eel, be prepared for a fish that may never take prepared foods and may require live nightcrawlers it's entire life. though most do take to frozen krill, fish fillets, ect... many refuse to eat anything but nightcrawlers ( as is my experiance) reguardless of what spiney you go with I would also strongly suggest QT with live blackworms, and a round of Prazi-pro before adding it to any other set-up. Most spineys come in emmaciated and in poor health. often full of gill flukes and/or worms. I have never lost a spiney eel useing this QT method/husbandry practice. I free feed live black worms until they are around the 10" range and able to start eating cut up nightcrawlers, at this point I also introduce frozen krill, and other things. Or around 3monthes in my care.

Spiney eels generally jump for a few reasons. insufficent security places to hide, you can have a tank packed with hide spots but if the eel doesn't feel secure they will keep looking for a secure place. Poor water quality, these fish do not like excessively high nitrates and any change in water chemistry may stress them out and cause them to seek "greener pastures". to much aggression from tank-mates. And in a more simplified nutshell, Stress. A spiney that readily swims around it's tank and pokes its head out when you enter the room to see if you have food is likely an eel not going to try to jump.

Alot of people reccomed tapeing up your tank ect.. i personally do not. After the initial settling in period if your spiney is trying to jump out it needs its needs met better, because eventually it will find a way out. Ive had spineys jump, only once was it a random occurance. The rest where compleatly avoidable and it was my fault for not being more aware of the tank.

sorry if i was abit jumbled.

I agree that was an amazing response! I really appreciate everyone taking the time to answer my questions! Monsterminis I ended up deciding on a fire eel that will be housed with a collection of sevrums sliver dollars and two veija reganis. The one that I found looked to be in great health, with good colors, and the owner of the store even fed him pellets before I bought him to prove his pellet training. I will get black worms like you suggested though. Unfortunately in my area I'm not sure where to get live black worms only frozen. I have lots of plants and caves in the tank but currently have black aquarium gravel. I do plan on changing that to sand by the end of the week though. More specifically granit. I'm not sure if I could do live plants with the silver dollars being vegetarians though. By I keep my water clean so nitrates shouldn't be a problem.


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Congrats on the fire eel. I loved mine very much. He went from 6" to 24" in less than 2 years. I would strongly reccomend a extremely well sealed tank. I had to rehome mine after my 220 gave out and unfortunately doug the eel jumped out his 2nd night at his new home.
 
If he is eating pellets already i would not offer him anything else, they tend to pick a food and only eat it. so if hes eating pellets i would not offer him live, as hes likely to hold out for it. btw your stock list sounds just fine with these guys. your gravel should be fine if hes got plenty of options. changing the tank around while hes settling in might not be a good idea. If hes eating and otherwise settled in you may be fine switching it. but if hes not i would wait.
 
Thank you! And I'm sorry to hear that, how large was home number 2? And what did you house him with?


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Home number 2 was exact same size tank, and he lived his whole life with the stocklist in my sig
 
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