Nicely posted as the guy was getting a little prickly lol..I was going to ask why leave out the panaque but then he includes them a few posts later.Sometimes you have to work a little for the information you're after. You were provided with a great thread to research the answer to your question. Roll up your sleeves and dig in. You will not learn if your spoon fed the answers. Might find it interesting too. Maybe no one knows the answer off the top of their head, you could tell us.