Goonch Death Discussion Thread

Estarego8

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I dont keep Goonch, But from what i've read on most ranges/species they are subtropical. Most people i see keeping them are in tropical tanks.

Subtropical fish die in tropical tanks easy as that. Maybe my failure to keep trout in an aquarium as a child helped me grasp this concept better then others, but people seem to ignore this fact. Most seem to think that if they experience warmer temperatures in the natural rangs at some point during the year it means they are fine year round and this is wrong, most would do better in need these lower temperatures year round and simply tolerate summer temperatures for short periods.

I keep snakeheads like Channa Aurantimaculata from those same areas and it's very similar. For years i've been watching people by them, keep them tropical temps stating "everything's fine" and then say its a mystery when it died a year later. There is no mystery it was kept too warm too long.
This is known and varies by species. I always keep my own in the lower range. Even my Thai I keep at their lower range. Also you are so lucky to be able to legally keep snake heads =/ US laws suck.
 

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This is known and varies by species. I always keep my own in the lower range. Even my Thai I keep at their lower range. Also you are so lucky to be able to legally keep snake heads =/ US laws suck.
Ya i suspect in most cases it'll be narrowed down to tropical temps being the issue, Should be interesting to hear what local fisherman say, i'm quite jealous I'd love an opportunity like that to travel to India, although it would be Channa I'd be after lol!

Feel free to follow the link in my profile and check out my threads , I have a few species of subtropical channa now lot's of pic's on this forum!
 

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I was a owner for 8 1/2 months of a goonch that grew from 21" to 30". I am also a owner of a 5" one that is probably 10" now. No chemicals used in the tank except for liquid prime and then I switched to safe. I don't believe in using anything in my tanks unless it's for disease. Only thing I have had in my tanks for over a decade is just ich and that came from feeders and newly introduced fish. Temperatures was 78 degrees in the goonch tanks with lots of aeration and flow. I think the deaths have more to do with water quality,and chemicals.

IMO the majority of fish are very adaptable as long as it's not in the extremes to there natural environment. As long as you have good water and stay away from all the crazy chemicals then you will have success. You will always have fish eat fish and suicides in your tank but that has nothing to do with how you maintain your tank. If a fish dies with no signs then start looking at your chemicals you are adding and how much you change and filter your water before you even look at things like migratory. Just my opinion as I find lots of people complicate things and look for reasons why their fish died that is wayyy too far outside the box. Most likely it just the simple things.

In the end I believe it comes down to the chemicals you shouldn't have added,extremes and the missed water changes.
 

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I was a owner for 8 1/2 months of a goonch that grew from 21" to 30". I am also a owner of a 5" one that is probably 10" now. No chemicals used in the tank except for liquid prime and then I switched to safe. I don't believe in using anything in my tanks unless it's for disease. Only thing I have had in my tanks for over a decade is just ich and that came from feeders and newly introduced fish. Temperatures was 78 degrees in the goonch tanks with lots of aeration and flow. I think the deaths have more to do with water quality,and chemicals.

IMO the majority of fish are very adaptable as long as it's not in the extremes to there natural environment. As long as you have good water and stay away from all the crazy chemicals then you will have success. You will always have fish eat fish and suicides in your tank but that has nothing to do with how you maintain your tank. If a fish dies with no signs then start looking at your chemicals you are adding and how much you change and filter your water before you even look at things like migratory. Just my opinion as I find lots of people complicate things and look for reasons why their fish died that is wayyy too far outside the box. Most likely it just the simple things.

In the end I believe it comes down to the chemicals you shouldn't have added,extremes and the missed water changes.
what happened with your large one ?
 

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what happened with your large one ?
Sold it to a guy with a catfish pond as it wasn't ray compatible and my big tanks all have breeding stingrays. Big goonch require big tanks and I chose my rays over the goonch. I will see how it works out with my little guy as he will grow out with the rays. If it doesn't work I will sell him too as there is no money to be made in large goonch catfish.
 

FLESHY

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Bagarius spreads out over two subcontinents.

As I said in a previous post, some of these fish are tropical. The Red River in Vietnam (home to B. rutilus) ranges as I previously stated from 24-30C or 75-86F.

I think another problem is treating them all is if they are temperate fishes, when it appears to me that they are not.

B. yarrelli is clearly a temperate fish. Ill be interested to see some specific water parameter readings from all of these rivers, although Im willing to bet that aquaria parameters will almost always be better.
 

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Chicxulub has had shedding, again it seems to mainly happen after h2o changes of 50% or more.
 
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