The Creation Of Blood Parrot Cichlids (Pure Cruelty)

Do You Think It Is Okay To Breed and Sell This Fish

  • I am Against Breeding, Buying, and Selling Blood Parrot Cichlids

    Votes: 24 48.0%
  • I think It Is Okay To Breed, Buy, and Sell Blood Parrot Cichlids

    Votes: 26 52.0%

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predatorkeeper87

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It's just based on your own experiences. Everyone's experiences are different individually
again, agreed 100%, but with my small group of fish from all over the world I have noticed a difference in resistances. my African/Asian tank has all gone a round with ich and fungus in the beginning (mostly the loaches, fragile little fellas)
 

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I don't think BP are ugly. I can named few fishes that are ugliest in my opinion.
That's what is great about us all having our own individual tastes and not all liking the same thing.I personally think that they are hideous but they obviously have their legions of fans as they seem to sell very well in some shops.I can recall quite a few of my fish being called ugly by different people lol!
 

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I did my reaserch on hybrid fish and its sad to see this happen for pleasure and money.

Persoanly I will not ever keep a BP or something intention aly bred with deformity.
 

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This sorta reminds me of a law case I've heard about: a deaf couple, who apparently are so proud to be deaf, wants to have their children 'medically made deaf' so the children would be just like them
those parents need beaten, and then be first in line for that new medical tech that is giving people hearing from complete deafness.
 

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mammon2.jpg First published in the Taiwanese aquatic magazine, AquaLife, back in 1990. In 2004 it was published in Aquapets, and later translated to english & reprinted in the following link.

http://parrotcichlid.com/history


There appears to be plenty of different crosses that have taken place with "parrot" fish in Taiwan & elsewhere over the years, but the origin of the Blood Parrot is a rather simple cross, of two pure fish. There have been first generation examples shown of this cross in the hybrid section. Some of the strains with normal mouths, such as the Red Mammon shown in the photo, are quite beautiful fish IMO.
 

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An interesting perspective to consider, is that the original breeders may not have seen it as a deformity; as opposed to simply creating a desired shape.

Yes, you could point to the mouth shape as being an obvious deformity, but whether or not that was the original intention won't be known since the original creation of BP's is either unknown, or a closely guarded secret.

For example, some of the goldfish varieties which struggle to swim etc, the Japanese breeders don't tend to think, "hey, I'm gonna create this retarded goldfish for a laugh Joe", they legitimately think they are creating something beautiful. Which it is, depending on your point of view.
 

predatorkeeper87

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An interesting perspective to consider, is that the original breeders may not have seen it as a deformity; as opposed to simply creating a desired shape.
Yes, you could point to the mouth shape as being an obvious deformity, but whether or not that was the original intention won't be known since the original creation of BP's is either unknown, or a closely guarded secret.
For example, some of the goldfish varieties which struggle to swim etc, the Japanese breeders don't tend to think, "hey, I'm gonna create this retarded goldfish for a laugh Joe", they legitimately think they are creating something beautiful. Which it is, depending on your point of view.
beauty at the expense of the fish.
I feel like RD's post above makes it not much a secret any more haha.
those breeders make those fish for profit...they just test which breeds sell the best, then go to town...they don't care about the fish, and if they do, then they have a weird way of showing it...
I don't blame people for making these fish, because people buy them. I just don't agree with it haha. A hobbled life for the fish, all for the sake of a unique look ya know?
 
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predatorkeeper87

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View attachment 1158543 First published in the Taiwanese aquatic magazine, AquaLife, back in 1990. In 2004 it was published in Aquapets, and later translated to english & reprinted in the following link.

http://parrotcichlid.com/history


There appears to be plenty of different crosses that have taken place with "parrot" fish in Taiwan & elsewhere over the years, but the origin of the Blood Parrot is a rather simple cross, of two pure fish. There have been first generation examples shown of this cross in the hybrid section. Some of the strains with normal mouths, such as the Red Mammon shown in the photo, are quite beautiful fish IMO.
well...I'm not a cichlid fan in general, so I don't find that fish good-looking but at least the obvious genetic deformities aren't present...whether or not the fish is completely healthy though is another topic entirely I suppose.
 

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end of the day its an unfortunate and fortunate part of the hobby-differing tastes in fish keep the hobby fresh and exciting. Unfortunately sometimes the fish we love suffer the consequences is all.
 

convict360

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beauty at the expense of the fish.
I feel like RD's post above makes it not much a secret any more haha.
those breeders make those fish for profit...they just test which breeds sell the best, then go to town...they don't care about the fish, and if they do, then they have a weird way of showing it...
I don't blame people for making these fish, because people buy them. I just don't agree with it haha. A hobbled life for the fish, all for the sake of a unique look ya know?
Without concrete evidence, its speculation.

I don't agree with the practise either, but given that BP's do exist now; and that they aren't weak fish, I don't hesitate to buy them.

For example, my BP doesn't exactly "suffer" lol, she swims well, eats well etc

P.S to answer this question before its started, I have read the article posted by RD; and it may well be true, but to be pedantic, you'd need to look at the actual dna of the fish you have, to establish which fish its made up of.
 
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