100 gallon CA stocking

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There is always such a debate about stocking tanks. This is my midevil Ben in his 60"x18"x21" 100g. He is around 12" so not really a huge fish. I think it's pretty obvious why he has no friends and why it is probably a bad idea to stick several large CA cichlids in a 4,5, or even 6 foot tank. If anything he should be in a bigger tank by himself.
 

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There is always such a debate about stocking tanks. This is my midevil Ben in his 60"x18"x21" 100g. He is around 12" so not really a huge fish. I think it's pretty obvious why he has no friends and why it is probably a bad idea to stick several large CA cichlids in a 4,5, or even 6 foot tank. If anything he should be in a bigger tank by himself.
This is definitely to be expected of any male from any species of Amphilophus, it's just how they act, females don't generally make good wet-pets nor are they very owner-responsive. I agree about male Amphs being kept communicably but female Amphs always seem to be a great addition an aggressive cichlid community.

Females are often perfect for tanks w/ other males of equal size (but not limited to) and slightly milder aggression like GTs, JDs, several Parachromis, Convicts, Vieja, and various others and they are often indifferent to Plecos and other Bottom-feeders. They also do not grow as large, neither in length or weight.

That's a hell of a nice little beast you got there....still got a bit of growing to do also. 5' tank is definitely better than a 4' tank for these guys, but again, if you have a female there's a good chance she will be fine in a 75g or a 90g if neccessary
 
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This is definitely to be expected of any male from any species of Amphilophus, it's just how they act, females don't generally make good wet-pets nor are they very owner-responsive. I agree about male Amphs being kept communicably but female Amphs always seem to be a great addition an aggressive cichlid community.

Females are often perfect for tanks w/ other males of equal size (but not limited to) and slightly milder aggression like GTs, JDs, several Parachromis, Convicts, Vieja, and various others and they are often indifferent to Plecos and other Bottom-feeders. They also do not grow as large, neither in length or weight.

That's a hell of a nice little beast you got there....still got a bit of growing to do also. 5' tank is definitely better than a 4' tank for these guys, but again, if you have a female there's a good chance she will be fine in a 75g or a 90g if neccessary
Aggression aside, I still wouldn't put anything else with any comparable size in this footprint. Add a couple of 10" fish and some decor and water quality would be a nightmare. Growing fish out is one thing, but permanent housing is another.
 

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What a stud! I've never kept them but he makes me want to.

Large, aggressive, and active ... Definitely not well suited in a 4ft tank, probably not the 5 either. Not for much longer. He does look like he would enjoy a 6ft+ tank. tank mates would be impossible with his aggression. Not necessarily the case for all CA species.
 

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What a stud! I've never kept them but he makes me want to.

Large, aggressive, and active ... Definitely not well suited in a 4ft tank, probably not the 5 either. Not for much longer. He does look like he would enjoy a 6ft+ tank. tank mates would be impossible with his aggression. Not necessarily the case for all CA species.
I agree there are so many variables between different species and even individuals that even 2 identical tanks with the same species fish can have totally different results. I hate trying to give advice to people on stocking for that very reason. I was referencing size more than aggression. I think so many people get a 4' tank and a couple of juvenile cichlids and it still looks empty, so they get a few more and really don't have a concept of the size needed to accommodate the fish as adults. For example according to a chart I was looking at, an 8" crappie weighs around .4lbs while a 16" crappie weighs 3.4lbs. The fish doubled in length, but is now 8.5 times the weight. It also doesn't help that a lot of people exaggerate the size of the fish in their tanks claiming a 10" fish is a 12" fish.
 
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Agree 100% about the weights of fish, Andy Woods always weighs his fish, sent me a pic of his 10 inch jag yesterday 0.6 lbs, his old 16inch jag 2.9lbs, which is about the same as a 13 inch citrinellus. There is a massive difference between different species and different lengths.
 
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