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Aquaripure nitrate filters run at 6gph, and that's still enough to sustain an anaerobic bacteria colony. As long as there is some flow in your filter, the bacteria shouldn't die.
Agreed but any bb colony will be the size it is based on how much load or nutrient recieved. Seachem stated that the flow rate and amount of media is relative to yhe size of the bioload so essentially low flow may mean less to eat lower growth and may not be able to keep up with my bioload. They recommended to stay at 40ish goh to see results
 

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Agreed but any bb colony will be the size it is based on how much load or nutrient recieved. Seachem stated that the flow rate and amount of media is relative to yhe size of the bioload so essentially low flow may mean less to eat lower growth and may not be able to keep up with my bioload. They recommended to stay at 40ish goh to see results
That was the flow I plan to run my filter at. It's about the highest gph you can run the filter at without it being too much for the bacteria.
 

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Aquaripure nitrate filters run at 6gph, and that's still enough to sustain an anaerobic bacteria colony. As long as there is some flow in your filter, the bacteria shouldn't die.
The biggest complaint with this product is after a while of use. After a year. It worked well in the beginning and then nitrates would creep up at 40-80ppm. This was something that couldn't be fixed. Similarly like my diy denitrator, it hit a wall.
 

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The biggest complaint with this product is after a while of use. After a year. It worked well in the beginning and then nitrates would creep up at 40-80ppm. This was something that couldn't be fixed. Similarly like my diy denitrator, it hit a wall.
I believe that's how long it took for the media to clog. With the diy filter you can open it and replace the mechanical media.
 

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The biggest complaint with this product is after a while of use. After a year. It worked well in the beginning and then nitrates would creep up at 40-80ppm. This was something that couldn't be fixed. Similarly like my diy denitrator, it hit a wall.
By hit a wall do you mean its not reducing nitrates or that it wont get it to 0 for a length of time ?

how long us it currently taking for nitrates to creep back up to 40pmm Between wc's ?
 

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By hit a wall do you mean its not reducing nitrates or that it wont get it to 0 for a length of time ?

how long us it currently taking for nitrates to creep back up to 40pmm Between wc's ?
Yes...not reducing nitrates anymore. There's definitely an improvement. As far aquaripure same thing. Other owners complaints about it. The nitrates creep to about 40ppm and stay there. That's after some time of use.

I get about 2-2.5 weeks and then hits about 40ppm. I did reduce the flow down about 1 week ago. Still waiting to see any changes with that. So far none.
 

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I believe that's how long it took for the media to clog. With the diy filter you can open it and replace the mechanical media.
Suspect that as well. Every week or so I shake it like a salt shaker. Gets some funk out there other end. My pvc pipe is sealed off. There a sponge on the pump too.
 

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Yes...not reducing nitrates anymore. There's definitely an improvement. As far aquaripure same thing. Other owners complaints about it. The nitrates creep to about 40ppm and stay there. That's after some time of use.

I get about 2-2.5 weeks and then hits about 40ppm. I did reduce the flow down about 1 week ago. Still waiting to see any changes with that. So far none.
Man i still call that a success 2.5 weeks to hit 40pmm....i hit that in 4 days lol.

As long as its keeping them lower or exting the ammount of time it takes to creep into the red i'm happy
 

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Angelphish said:
Aquaripure nitrate filters run at 6gph ...
Where did you get 6gph for Aquaripure nitrate filters? There's no stated flowrate on the website that I'm aware of but I've calculated the flowrate before based on the largest filter's 90 gallon equivalent weekly water change and it's a lot slower than 6gph. 90gpW ÷ 7days ÷ 24hours = 0.54 gph. I came up with another way to calculate the gph to verify it.

Aquaripure denitrators' flowrates/gph are basically like automatic drip systems which use very slow driprates and calculating weekly water changes can be difficult when driprates are used. Luckily, there's a handy calculator to help us with that:

http://www.angelfish.net/DripSystemcalc.php

Also, calculating gph based on the water change volume will vary depending on the tank size (total volume changed), so I'll use both the minimum and maximum recommended size tanks to calculate gph for each denitrator: small, medium and large. That way, I'll be sure to get a full range of gph values

Using the Small Aquaripure denitrator ... "the Small Aquaripure [is] the equivalent of up to a 20 gallon weekly water change." It is recommended for aquariums between 20 - 50 gallons. What driprate does it take to perform the equivalent of a 20 gallon weekly water change on a 20 and 50 gallon tank?

On a 20 gallon tank, a 20 gallon weekly water change (100% total water volume) takes 1.18 gpH, 28.3 gpD, 198 gpW.
On a 50 gallon tank, a 20 gallon weekly water change (40% total water volume) takes 0.15 gpH, 3.65 gpD, 25.6 gpW.

Using the Medium Aquaripure denitrator ... "the Medium Aquaripure [is] the equivalent of up to a 50 gallon weekly water change." It is recommended for aquariums between 55 - 115 gallons. What driprate does it take to perform the equivalent of a 50 gallon weekly water change on a 55 and 115 gallon tank?

On a 55 gallon tank, a 50 gallon weekly water change (90.9% total water volume) takes 0.78 gpH, 18.83 gpD, 131.81 gpW.
On a 115 gallon tank, a 50 gallon weekly water change (43.48% total water volume) takes 0.39 gpH, 9.373 gpD, 65.6 gpW.

Using the Large Aquaripure denitrator ... "the Large Aquaripure [is] the equivalent of up to a 90 gallon weekly water change." It is recommended for aquariums between 110 - 300+ gallons. What driprate does it take to perform the equivalent of a 90 gallon weekly water change on a 110, 300, 400, 500, and 750 gallon tanks?

On a 110 gallon tank, a 90 gallon weekly water change (81.81% total water volume) takes 1.11 gpH, 26.78 gpD, 187.46 gpW.
On a 300 gallon tank, a 90 gallon weekly water change (30% total water volume) takes 0.64 gpH, 15.3 gpD, 107 gpW.
On a 400 gallon tank, a 90 gallon weekly water change (22% total water volume) takes 0.59 gpH, 14.2 gpD, 99.4 gpW.
On a 500 gallon tank, a 90 gallon weekly water change (18% total water volume) takes 0.59 gpH, 14.18 gpD, 99.26 gpW.
On a 750 gallon tank, a 90 gallon weekly water change (12% total water volume) takes 0.57 gpH, 13.7 gpD, 95.9 gpW.

The 300 GL tanks and above are very close in their gph suggesting this is the range where the large Aquaripure driprate operates.

According to this method, Aquaripure denitrators have varying flowrates as low as 0.15 to as high as 1.15 gpH but this is only because of smaller tank sizes and equivalent water change volume. The flowrate (gph) through the denitrator remains constant. The Aquaripure Large Denitrator or Nitrate Filter typically operates around 0.57 to 0.64 gpH which is its actual gpH.

It turns out that my other method of calculating the flowrate based on the largest filter's equivalent weekly water change of 90 gallons works out very close. 90gpW ÷ 7days ÷ 24hours = 0.54 gph. That's much more simple.

http://aquaripure.com/shop/aquaripure-nitrate-removal-filter/large-aquaripure/

Are you planning on carbon dosing? I hope to finish my denitrator this weekend too. It'll be in a tank without fish so I can add and measure nitrate with potassium and calcium nitrate and phosphate with potassium and sodium phosphate and other chemicals needed to build up the water (it's too soft).

I'll dose carbon per the Aquaripure instructions: 4 ml every 3-4 days with the same amount of bacteria supplement until the denitrator is fully cycled. Then I believe it calls for dosing 4 ml carbon every 2-3 weeks in its port but I'll dose less more often.
 
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Where did you get 6gph for Aquaripure nitrate filters? There's no stated flowrate on the website that I'm aware of but I've calculated the flowrate before based on the largest filter's 90 gallon equivalent weekly water change and it's a lot slower than 6gph. 90gpW ÷ 7days ÷ 24hours = 0.54 gph. I came up with another way to calculate the gph to verify it.

Aquaripure denitrators' flowrates/gph are basically like automatic drip systems which use very slow driprates and calculating weekly water changes can be difficult when driprates are used. Luckily, there's a handy calculator to help us with that:

http://www.angelfish.net/DripSystemcalc.php

Also, calculating gph based on the water change volume will vary depending on the tank size (total volume changed), so I'll use both the minimum and maximum recommended size tanks to calculate gph for each denitrator: small, medium and large. That way, I'll be sure to get a full range of gph values

Using the Small Aquaripure denitrator ... "the Small Aquaripure [is] the equivalent of up to a 20 gallon weekly water change." It is recommended for aquariums between 20 - 50 gallons. What driprate does it take to perform the equivalent of a 20 gallon weekly water change on a 20 and 50 gallon tank?

On a 20 gallon tank, a 20 gallon weekly water change (100% total water volume) takes 1.18 gpH, 28.3 gpD, 198 gpW.
On a 50 gallon tank, a 20 gallon weekly water change (40% total water volume) takes 0.15 gpH, 3.65 gpD, 25.6 gpW.

Using the Medium Aquaripure denitrator ... "the Medium Aquaripure [is] the equivalent of up to a 50 gallon weekly water change." It is recommended for aquariums between 55 - 115 gallons. What driprate does it take to perform the equivalent of a 50 gallon weekly water change on a 55 and 115 gallon tank?

On a 55 gallon tank, a 50 gallon weekly water change (90.9% total water volume) takes 0.78 gpH, 18.83 gpD, 131.81 gpW.
On a 115 gallon tank, a 50 gallon weekly water change (43.48% total water volume) takes 0.39 gpH, 9.373 gpD, 65.6 gpW.

Using the Large Aquaripure denitrator ... "the Large Aquaripure [is] the equivalent of up to a 90 gallon weekly water change." It is recommended for aquariums between 110 - 300+ gallons. What driprate does it take to perform the equivalent of a 90 gallon weekly water change on a 110, 300, 400, 500, and 750 gallon tanks?

On a 110 gallon tank, a 90 gallon weekly water change (81.81% total water volume) takes 1.11 gpH, 26.78 gpD, 187.46 gpW.
On a 300 gallon tank, a 90 gallon weekly water change (30% total water volume) takes 0.64 gpH, 15.3 gpD, 107 gpW.
On a 400 gallon tank, a 90 gallon weekly water change (22% total water volume) takes 0.59 gpH, 14.2 gpD, 99.4 gpW.
On a 500 gallon tank, a 90 gallon weekly water change (18% total water volume) takes 0.59 gpH, 14.18 gpD, 99.26 gpW.
On a 750 gallon tank, a 90 gallon weekly water change (12% total water volume) takes 0.57 gpH, 13.7 gpD, 95.9 gpW.

The 300 GL tanks and above are very close in their gph suggesting this is the range where the large Aquaripure driprate operates.

According to this method, Aquaripure denitrators have varying flowrates as low as 0.15 to as high as 1.15 gpH but this is only because of smaller tank sizes and equivalent water change volume. The flowrate (gph) through the denitrator remains constant. The Aquaripure Large Denitrator or Nitrate Filter typically operates around 0.57 to 0.64 gpH which is its actual gpH.

It turns out that my other method of calculating the flowrate based on the largest filter's equivalent weekly water change of 90 gallons works out very close. 90gpW ÷ 7days ÷ 24hours = 0.54 gph. That's much more simple.

http://aquaripure.com/shop/aquaripure-nitrate-removal-filter/large-aquaripure/

Are you planning on carbon dosing? I hope to finish my denitrator this weekend too. It'll be in a tank without fish so I can add and measure nitrate with potassium and calcium nitrate and phosphate with potassium and sodium phosphate and other chemicals needed to build up the water (it's too soft).

I'll dose carbon per the Aquaripure instructions: 4 ml every 3-4 days with the same amount of bacteria supplement until the denitrator is fully cycled. Then I believe it calls for dosing 4 ml carbon every 2-3 weeks in its port but I'll dose less more often.
I originally planned to use a 6gph pump on my nitrate filter, and one day I got that flow rate mixed up with the Aquaripures.

What would I use for carbon dosing? I'll do it if it speeds up the colonization of the bacteria, because in two weeks, I'll be leaving for 10 days.
 
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