What's in the box? It's polys!

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I have been putting a lot of aquarium salt in lately. I think I'm just going to put them in the 55g. Even with the 50-75% WC, ammonia has been very hard to correct.

What I found on beblondie's poly health thread:
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Eye Problems
Generally the most common eye problem with Polypterids is a clouding of the eyes usually one eye and many times only one
fish might exhibit this in a tank with several tankmates.There can be several cause.
1.water quality seems to be the most often cause and generally be cleared up by a good waterchange
2.Injuries from fighting with tankmates or sharp objects in the tank
3.Cottony white growth over lens of eye Saprolegnia Fungus.
4.Translucent film over the lens of the eye Could be a gram-negative bacterial infection
5.The iris (around the pupil) becomes cloudy Gram Negative bacterial infection
6.he entire eye becomes cloudy from the inside out Could be a parasite,i.e.,flukes
7.Swelling and redness surround the outside of the eye Could be an injury from decor inside the tank or pond Gram-negative bacterial infection.
Before medicating start off with a waterchange and observe the fish the clouding should reduce in 24-36 hours
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Since the water quality has been a problem in the QT, maybe moving them to the 55g would solve the problem?

If it doesn't, then dose for gram negative bacteria or saprolengia fungus. Don't know what either of those are. Would Paraguard cure either of those? I've dosed Paraguard a few times. What about prazipro? What meds should I use for those? Will post some pics and do some more research.
 
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I don't see any eye issues on ur prior photos for the moke. But definitely some concern. Move to the established tank and see how it progresses.
 
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I don't see any eye issues on ur prior photos for the moke. But definitely some concern. Move to the established tank and see how it progresses.
 

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I don't see any eye issues on ur prior photos for the moke. But definitely some concern. Move to the established tank and see how it progresses.
Yeah it is very acute. It looked like a white dot in her pupil. Now the other eye is starting to look cloudy. She definitely has gotten darker. Will take a pic of it when I get home. Guessing it's from my unstable parameters in the unestavlished WT. should have listened to magpie magpie and cycled it first.
 
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I don't think about ich on eyes, either but I have only had it once many years ago, so I am farrrrrr from an expert on it.

I just googled very quickly and found cloudy eyes as a symptom of ammonia, but I didn't look deep. Maybe research a bit?
Thanks magpie magpie .
Wouldn't be surprised if it was ammonia related. that's what I found too.

2 cups (32 tbsp) of aq salt in my 190'ish gallon (6x2x26"h) is the threshold to cause my Congicus to get cloudy eyes. It's my most sensitive poly.
That is very interesting. Did you notice anything like darling of body?
So no media in the 10 gal ? Nothing for the bb to colonize on except the decor and glass ?


Only thing in the 55 is the danios ? If so and if it were me i would just move the polys to the 55 ich is easily treatable ammonia in qt is a bigger enemy.

If and when you do move them try to feed very lightly as you will be increasing the bioload....again if it were me i move em and dose the 55 gal with 1 bottle of sadestart just to account for the additional bio load.


Basically did this with the 300 gal and it made all my issues disappear lol
There is a Marino moss ball in the 10g. Think I might roll the dice like you did with sp. candy. and hope for the best. Then post updates, pics, and maybe another thread.
 
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Just something for u to look into. I've had a significant ph drop when I had 50 large clown loaches in 1 tank. It created some to have white dots in the pupil. Never seen it before.

Know there are no big fish in th qt. But it'd be good to see if low ph is the cause. I beliebe the prolonged exposure to the aq salt in qt may be the culprit.


From petcha.com
'In my years as an aquarium dealer, I ran many water tests for customers. When they complained of aquarium fish with cloudy eyes, almost without exception I found the pH in their aquariums to be extremely low. Often, the pH was so low it tested off the chart.


Large fish produce a lot of waste. One of the by-products of biofiltration in a tank is the production of acids. In a tank with a high bioload, biofiltration can produce a lot of acid. Over time, these acids cause the pH to drop. How fast this happens depends on the water chemistry of your local tap water, but with big fish, it tends to happen quickly.'
 
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I'd do exactly what jaws said, keep an eye on the water parameters daily, and then see how she does before dosing anything else.
 
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Just something for u to look into. I've had a significant ph drop when I had 50 large clown loaches in 1 tank. It created some to have white dots in the pupil. Never seen it before.

Know there are no big fish in th qt. But it'd be good to see if low ph is the cause. I beliebe the prolonged exposure to the aq salt in qt may be the culprit.


From petcha.com
'In my years as an aquarium dealer, I ran many water tests for customers. When they complained of aquarium fish with cloudy eyes, almost without exception I found the pH in their aquariums to be extremely low. Often, the pH was so low it tested off the chart.


Large fish produce a lot of waste. One of the by-products of biofiltration in a tank is the production of acids. In a tank with a high bioload, biofiltration can produce a lot of acid. Over time, these acids cause the pH to drop. How fast this happens depends on the water chemistry of your local tap water, but with big fish, it tends to happen quickly.'
Thanks Sam. That is a good point. I've just been following the ammonia. Will see what the pH is at. Have been putting in a lot of salt every day. Maybe she's just tired of all the salt and ammonia. Will check the pH when I get home. Thanks for the article. I also found a cool eye chart. Of course I'm not qualified to make assessments with it; although thought it was cool and might help.

http://www.nationalfishpharm.com/fish_diseases/eyes.html
 
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