Official 2017/2018 NFL Discussion Thread
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Hello; I will try a short version. That there are studies on both sides of the police shootings is not the point. The question of the NFL players having a "right" to protest is not the point, they do have such a right.
The point is when the protests have been taking place. During the display of the flag and the playing of the national anthem. That is the problem to my way of thinking. The players have taken advantage of that particular time and place to force an agenda.
There are claims that such a deliberate choice to protest during the anthem is not supposed to disrespect the flag. I do not buy that at all. To kneel during the anthem and a display of our flag is a level of disrespect. If a person is against what the flag represents then take a knee when it is presented in the formal ceremony. If the person is protesting some other agenda then find another time or place to stage such a protest.
The point is when the protests have been taking place. During the display of the flag and the playing of the national anthem. That is the problem to my way of thinking. The players have taken advantage of that particular time and place to force an agenda.
There are claims that such a deliberate choice to protest during the anthem is not supposed to disrespect the flag. I do not buy that at all. To kneel during the anthem and a display of our flag is a level of disrespect. If a person is against what the flag represents then take a knee when it is presented in the formal ceremony. If the person is protesting some other agenda then find another time or place to stage such a protest.
At this point i find it hard to believe they are protesting anything. Infact i think tjey just like the attention. I bet 90% of them dont even understand what the anthem the actual song is about
Agreed, but I think it would be similar. Being from So Cal, I know L.A. has some deep racism despite how liberal think Hollywood is. Relatives lived in Texas, that racism is real too. I can't speak for Florida or NY. Still would love to see it there. I would wager some areas it is higher than others, but I think the percentages would be pretty close regardless. Until it's done though, you can't know for sure. I do remember the author of the study even stating his surprise at the results.
This was in reply to you saying that more white people are killed by the police than blacks. There was racism in some killings of whites of course but this was to point out that simply saying more white people being killed by police could be partially explained by them making up 62 percent of the us population. Racism is a reason too, but the main factor is population. It was to point out the racism in police shootings. I believe that discrimination is not restricted to blacks only but every human being.
In response to your claim that police officers are being killed on a massive scale,well, Police officers are highly unlikely to die in the line of duty with 12.6 out of a hundred thousand dying. Only 3.6 of those is by homicide.You are more likely to die as a logger than as a Police officer. Of course, there are some that make the ultimate sacrifice and I respect them for that.
I didn't say or claim police officers are being killed on a massive scale. So everything you posted to refute that is basically ....pointless?
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Shoot, my bad. My point was that the average police officer isn't exactly risking their lives everyday.
Agree, although I'm not a policeman. Police are injured or shot far more often then killed, and attacked or shot at far more often then injured or shot.
And jumping fences chasing an armed suspect, running through traffic, driving 80-90 or breaking down a door with a known felon on the other side is, in my mind, examples of risking one's life as well. Heck, I consider simply arresting an armed felon as risking one's life. So, the death of a policeman is but a small fraction of the times they risk their lives.
No job I've had was even close to that dangerous and I dare say that's true for most people, so there isn't a lot I think to say but that it's certainly very dangerous compared to most professions.
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According to this source https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/police-officers-2014.htm, non fatal injuries caused by people and animals make up roughly 27 percent. Of course, risking your life extends to other things so let's just say it's about 40 percent of the time they're injured they're risking their lives. This would be 11064 injuries that occurred from risking their lives. 11064 plus 1260 deaths equals 12,324 incidents in which officers risked their lives. There was about one million officers in 2008 for context. So more dangerous than usual. Happily though,the rate of assaults and injuries is going down so it's getting safer.
Hah...I suppose you are right but we are flying high right now and I'm enjoying jt.
I saw a short video clip of a player for the Redskins arguing with a fan near the sideline.Pryor Jr. I think it was and he appeared to be petty pissed off.Did you see or hear about that?
