One more try - Another Amaira

[kno4te]

Yes, fish aren't made to process birds and mammals. Does it happen on occasion that these bigger predator eat birds or other animals, but just not a regular meal.

If size is needed then daily feedings with massive water will help.

The bird sounds are imo there to draw attention to more predators around feeding on prey.

Dloks post your wolf and let's see this fish. Should be a nice wolf from wes.

 

[kno4te]

Also keep in mind there will be a time when growth will slow down and plateau even. Just gotta give it time and enough space.

 

[Dloks]

He's pretty thick the endli next to him is 15"-16" for reference kno4te

 

[peter predtank]

nice Dloks could you post a side pic of him ?

kno4te i know you know fish , and not trying to start an argument . and agree that for the most part mammals dont make up the bulk of fishes diets for obvious reasons . one lives in water and one lives on land but , im curious why you say fish are not made to digest such items ? do you mean that the acid in there guts cant handel it ?

some eat bony crabs and other crustaceans crayfish for example ? sharks eat seals as a main diet . and check this article out . seems trout and grayling givien the chance love furry shrews as a tasty treat lol . and the article says the the tails seem to take the most time to digest but they still eat and digest them .

dont you think that in the jungle rivers were the wolf fish live , especially the more shallow and smaller stream type areas in the thicker jungle that in fact mammals could make up a great deal more of the diet of these monsters in particular ? makes perfect scene to me

check this out

http://www.washington.edu/news/2014...eat-fish-gobble-furry-animals-with-four-feet/

 

[kno4te]

nice Dloks could you post a side pic of him ?

kno4te i know you know fish , and not trying to start an argument . and agree that for the most part mammals dont make up the bulk of fishes diets for obvious reasons . one lives in water and one lives on land but , im curious why you say fish are not made to digest such items ? do you mean that the acid in there guts cant handel it ?

some eat bony crabs and other crustaceans crayfish for example ? sharks eat seals as a main diet . and check this article out . seems trout and grayling givien the chance love furry shrews as a tasty treat lol . and the article says the the tails seem to take the most time to digest but they still eat and digest them .

dont you think that in the jungle rivers were the wolf fish live , especially the more shallow and smaller stream type areas in the thicker jungle that in fact mammals could make up a great deal more of the diet of these monsters in particular ? makes perfect scene to me

check this out

http://www.washington.edu/news/2014...eat-fish-gobble-furry-animals-with-four-feet/

Don't think it can handle the amount of fat. Not the right diet. Kind of like feeding beef heart. Just IMO.

No worries. Not an argument. Ur allowed to have opinions as do I.

Don't think wolves are ambush and not for aerial take downs. I'm sure it happens though. Still believe easier to take down a fish than a bird or mammal.

Sharks are built for the hunt. Don't see the evolution in it. So in case of wolves they'd have broader tails and more mobile etc. Not an expert in that....so take with a grain of salt.

 

[kno4te]

He's pretty thick the endli next to him is 15"-16" for reference kno4te

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Can see what no one would think it's lacardae. Color and head shape is a bit off if I'm seeing it right. Looks more australis.

Easiest way to tell is take shot from under and post the pics of pores. Lacardae has atleast 6. If it doesn't then it's not Lacardae off the bat.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

Let's for example focus on piscivorous fish. Fish is easy to digest. It's a weakly connected tissue with different protein make up, soft bones, almost no ligaments versus a land / air animal that has to cope with gravity. Also you need to cook fish 10x-100x shorter times than an animal of land or air and even after that one needs a sharp knife Usually not so with fish - the flesh falls apart and "melts" in your mouth.

Anyhow, this is about feeding mammal or avian meat to fish. Protein makeup and ease of digestion are of secondary concern. The fat is of first concern. It turns solid inside a cold fish body, while it was liquid inside a warm-blooded animal. Solid fat cannot be well digested by fish and is deposited in body cavity and around internal organs, eventually harming them.

 

[kno4te]

Let's for example focus on piscivorous fish. Fish is easy to digest. It's a weakly connected tissue with different protein make up, soft bones, almost no ligaments versus a land / air animal that has to cope with gravity. Also you need to cook fish 10x-100x shorter times than an animal of land or air and even after that one needs a sharp knife Usually not so with fish - the flesh falls apart and "melts" in your mouth.

Anyhow, this is about feeding mammal or avian meat to fish. Protein makeup and ease of digestion are of secondary concern. The fat is of first concern. It turns solid inside a cold fish body, while it was liquid inside a warm-blooded animal. Solid fat cannot be well digested by fish and is deposited in body cavity and around internal organs, eventually harming them.

Well said!

 

[peter predtank]

Just curious did you guys read the article i linked about the trout and grayling? Interesting no doubt ? The wolf would be much higher body temp then those fish also . to me though that would just mean faster metabolism . but then again the fish would also adapt in this regard just by evolving in different temp environments . meaning the trouts metabolism may be the same speed as the wolfs in a colder temp

also fat is not liquid in the form it is on the prey items body . it may well be turned into a liquid when broken down by the digestive acid . but looking at it as a substance that is going to harden in the fishes body just because they are cold blooded doesnt make sense really . and the article i link would prove this other wise all those trout and grayling that apear to love the furry little shrews would be floating belly up from clogged arteries lol
how would cold blooded animals like alligators and snakes especially ones from colder climates . manage to eat warm blooded animals with this logic

 

[Dloks]

peter predtank here you go Peter I'll take a better side profile later. kno4te yah I know even Wes himself isn't certain. I'm happy with my wolf honestly most personable fish I've ever owned. Swims up to the glass to eat always active. And believe it or not he thinks he's a bichir