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I didn't know this about you, Ken, that you do projects like these. Gotta read more of your threads, just 42 pages makes it a bit challenging ;) That's great except how do you rehome all these fine fish after they get nice size??
My main passion is outdoor ponds. I've worked with so many ponds over the past 30 years, I made notes of what the traditional japanese koi ponds did to grow jumbos and where technology has taken it. Many claim depth and volume but I found to be not true. We've introduced so much plastic into our fish keeping it's crazy. I've seen new ponds with the latest and greatest to only produce 12" koi. I've seen shallow 18" deep ponds with anaerobic areas grow 30" jumbos. The traditional Japanese ponds use in-pond filters......think about it.
These grow out threads is for me to play with East meet West filtration. Can we grow good healthy size fish in a 225g?. I'm like you but a way smaller scale. Love your updates too.
Rehoming in Socal is easy with a big population of fish monger.
 

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My main passion is outdoor ponds. I've worked with so many ponds over the past 30 years, I made notes of what the traditional japanese koi ponds did to grow jumbos and where technology has taken it. Many claim depth and volume but I found to be not true. We've introduced so much plastic into our fish keeping it's crazy. I've seen new ponds with the latest and greatest to only produce 12" koi. I've seen shallow 18" deep ponds with anaerobic areas grow 30" jumbos. The traditional Japanese ponds use in-pond filters......think about it.
These grow out threads is for me to play with East meet West filtration. Can we grow good healthy size fish in a 225g?. I'm like you but a way smaller scale. Love your updates too.
Rehoming in Socal is easy with a big population of fish monger.
Very interesting. Is there anywhere you discuss these experiences, findings, and tentative conclusions of yours in depth with data and examples etc.? I'd like to read it, if there was such a thread / write-up.
 
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I put my filtration up against East Coast! Monster Filter Keepers!
 

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Very interesting. Is there anywhere you discuss these experiences, findings, and tentative conclusions of yours in depth with data and examples etc.? I'd like to read it, if there was such a thread / write-up.
Me too, especially the Japanese way.
 

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Dude, I'm talking about the Japan. You're a thug gangster.

Very interesting. Is there anywhere you discuss these experiences, findings, and tentative conclusions of yours in depth with data and examples etc.? I'd like to read it, if there was such a thread / write-up.
Me too, especially the Japanese way.
I do not have anything in writing. I probably should.
When I started the koi hobby there were no such thing as UV, bead filters, filter mats, or sieves. Life was simple. Traditional japanese filters were pits in the pond with gravel. I have spent years watching and maintaining the same old ponds around Socal. Ponds built prior to the big bust for speed and ease (UV, bead filter) seem to produce bigger and healthier kois. I believe the new types of medias may appear to work but still lack what the fish needs to thrive past the juvi state.
There are many filters shared between aquarium and ponds so I think what I have observed in the ponds apply to the monster fish we keep in tanks. Don't over think it or go for looks. The number one thing is what the fish needs to get to the monster state.
 
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