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skjl47

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I didn't have you down as a social media type of guy Jeff. What makes it attractive to you now Musk has taken over? Personally I don't care who takes over at twitter, it doesn't interest me one iota, and it never will.
Hello; You are correct I use this site and a Mustang (car) site. Did not see much point using the social media sites when they were censored. I also do not care about Musk, only that the rumor is it will not be censored.
 

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Hello; Been watching some football lately. As is usual lots of times players make moves which seem to show a lack of clear understanding of either the rules or the game situation or sometimes both. I am wondering if some sort of stats are kept about these error type moves? Seems logical as in sports stats are kept on everything.
What I think to call it is football IQ. However, if it already is known may be called something else. By that i am thinking some sort of scale to rank or in some way differentiate those players who have a good Football IQ from those who flounder a lot.

Best way I can think of so far is to start everyone out will a score of 100 and then deduct points as they show a lack of understanding. I do not think simple mistakes ought to count against a player. I would not include fumbling the ball or dropping a pass. They may have a good understanding of what to do but just do not execute well. I get that a receiver who drops too many balls has a problem, he understands the point is to try to catch the ball.

An example might be a defensive player who takes a shot at a quarterback too late and gets an unnecessary foul called. Saw that cost his team a touchdown after his teammate intercepted the throw and had a pick six taken away.
Another may be a receiver who fails to step out of bounds when time is running out and his team lacks timeouts near the end of a half.

If some sort of measure already exists, I have wasted some more time.
 

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Hello; You are correct I use this site and a Mustang (car) site. Did not see much point using the social media sites when they were censored. I also do not care about Musk, only that the rumor is it will not be censored.
WELLLLL! I'm not sure about censoring but I heard that earlier today they factchecked a post that came from Brandon's account lol!
 

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Hello; Been watching some football lately. As is usual lots of times players make moves which seem to show a lack of clear understanding of either the rules or the game situation or sometimes both. I am wondering if some sort of stats are kept about these error type moves? Seems logical as in sports stats are kept on everything.
What I think to call it is football IQ. However, if it already is known may be called something else. By that i am thinking some sort of scale to rank or in some way differentiate those players who have a good Football IQ from those who flounder a lot.

Best way I can think of so far is to start everyone out will a score of 100 and then deduct points as they show a lack of understanding. I do not think simple mistakes ought to count against a player. I would not include fumbling the ball or dropping a pass. They may have a good understanding of what to do but just do not execute well. I get that a receiver who drops too many balls has a problem, he understands the point is to try to catch the ball.

An example might be a defensive player who takes a shot at a quarterback too late and gets an unnecessary foul called. Saw that cost his team a touchdown after his teammate intercepted the throw and had a pick six taken away.
Another may be a receiver who fails to step out of bounds when time is running out and his team lacks timeouts near the end of a half.

If some sort of measure already exists, I have wasted some more time.
I can't comment on American football, but European football relies on an insane amount of statistical information in an attempt to show which players are doing what on the pitch, such as their work rate and effectiveness in defensive/attacking play. Successful pass/tackle completion rates, goal attempts etc etc etc.

Clubs who are following players with a view to buying them delve into this info to get an idea of whether they would "fit in" to their philosophy and style. The transfer fees are such nowadays that this statistical info is pure gold for potential buyers.

And more importantly, the stats for each player go into databases so they can be compared against players in similar positions.
 

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Hello; You are correct I use this site and a Mustang (car) site. Did not see much point using the social media sites when they were censored. I also do not care about Musk, only that the rumor is it will not be censored.
In that case then Jeff, if it is indeed uncensored, I have no doubt who will be front and centre ruffling feathers! Take it easy on them old timer, lol.
 

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I can't comment on American football, but European football relies on an insane amount of statistical information in an attempt to show which players are doing what on the pitch, such as their work rate and effectiveness in defensive/attacking play. Successful pass/tackle completion rates, goal attempts etc etc etc.

Clubs who are following players with a view to buying them delve into this info to get an idea of whether they would "fit in" to their philosophy and style. The transfer fees are such nowadays that this statistical info is pure gold for potential buyers.

And more importantly, the stats for each player go into databases so they can be compared against players in similar positions.
Hello; The same or a similar sort of thing ought to apply to any sport except individuals, i guess. There is an old movie with a young Charlie Sheen. He is a pitcher with insanely fast fastball. His problem was control as his pitches were all over the place. His character would not score low on baseball IQ as he knew where to pitch. Lack of physical talent or aggressiveness is not what i am thinking of. A shortstop throwing to the wrong base would get points off even if he has a great arm.
 

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I visit a few online forums, MFK being one among them, that serve as excellent sources of information relating to various interests I have, as well as being convenient repositories or "libraries" for that information. Even so, there is much in them that is so completely useless and wasteful of time, such as most "Off-topic threads" :), that I am always hovering on the verge of dropping them altogether. And these forums represent the "best" type of social media, IMHO.

But Twitter, Facebook, etc.? Not a chance...and I don't care who is running them. They are a constant reminder to me of the ongoing devolution of Homo sapiens as an intelligent species; and I already see enough evidence of that in day to day life, without seeking it out on the internet.

Censorship is generally not a good thing...but it is not always an altogether bad thing either. There are plenty of people who have nothing to say that is worth listening to, and whose only contributions to intelligent debate are those brief periods when they actually shut up. And don't even get me started on the trolls who actively seek to start arguments by posting inflammatory drivel...
 
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As a Buccaneers fan, I think it's time Brady retires! He doesn't look like himself anymore and he's only tackle away from landing in a wheelchair. I'd hate to see that happen. I hope this is his final year but if he decides to play more then I'll respect whatever decision he makes. Hopefully he gets it together.
Your thoughts?
 

skjl47

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I visit a few online forums, MFK being one among them, that serve as excellent sources of information relating to various interests I have, as well as being convenient repositories or "libraries" for that information. Even so, there is much in them that is so completely useless and wasteful of time, such as most "Off-topic threads" :), that I am always hovering on the verge of dropping them altogether. And these forums represent the "best" type of social media, IMHO.

But Twitter, Facebook, etc.? Not a chance...and I don't care who is running them. They are a constant reminder to me of the ongoing devolution of Homo sapiens as an intelligent species; and I already see enough evidence of that in day to day life, without seeking it out on the internet.

Censorship is generally not a good thing...but it is not always an altogether bad thing either. There are plenty of people who have nothing to say that is worth listening to, and whose only contributions to intelligent debate are those brief periods when they actually shut up. And don't even get me started on the trolls who actively seek to start arguments by posting inflammatory drivel...
Hello; Your comments show a truth about free speech and a problem with censorship. I get it. Many people have little to nothing worth listening to and often say/write their worthless drivel poorly. We will have to wade thru a lot of useless drivel to find the occasional gem. In the USA we have a cable sponsored set of TV programs on what are known as C-SPAN. One daily program on C-SPAN is a 7 AM to 10 AM show called Washington Journal. It is a public call in type show. So much of the comments that do get thru the station's censors are a waste of time.

The major problem with censorship is tied directly with its very existence. If someone gets to decide who can speak then the standards of those doing the deciding come into play. What may not pass muster to you may be just what I wish to hear and vice versa. There is a false notion that we can have a judgement on speech without some voices being silenced. It is who gets to do the silencing which becomes the problem.
Even on this forum that has happened. Happened to me not that long ago. I was confident that natural immunity in survivors of a Covid 19 infection was just as good a protection as the then pushed vaccines. Turns out to be the case after all. However, i was shouted down by some and a few threads were simply closed rather than allow a discussion. Same happened on the only other forum I frequent. On that forum I was simply not allowed to post in a particular thread. Now that the evidence is in about the vaccines, I am still not allowed to post and those proclaiming what is now known as faulty are still spouting. A reason i am allowed to stay around is I take care to stay within the rules in terms of language and such similar things.

As far as threads such as this one in a "lounge" type area, it is much like having channels on a TV. I do not have to participate in any particular thread and do only stay active in only a very small percentage of threads. As with my TV I change the channels if i do not like a program. Any thread a person does not like can be avoided. Thing is someone or some group with a set agenda or point of view winds up wanting all who oppose or have different view to be silenced. I have yet to be afraid to explain my stance on topics and can do so without vile or otherwise poor language. If someone has a stance i do not like, then they need to be able to express their points. I can rebut if i disagree or perhaps even be persuaded. It does happen.
 
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