Arowana is sick and swimming with bending tail

[Sheldon D]

Hello guys !! The aro is swimming well but a bit dizzy. The redness is become less as compare to before. But he still is opening and closing his mouth again en again. Can I feed him arowana sticks coz he's not fed since he's I'll
thanks regards.

 

[Doc-Fish]

Considering this is the internet, you have been given some absolutely sound advice. The redness is indeed likely to be sepsis, based on your location and details in this thread, i would hazard a guess at a secondary bacterial infection with Aeromonas Hydrophilia.

Be VERY careful with this bacteria, it is Zoonotic and very common, the pattern of redness is a dead give away of it, also note your not out of the woods yet.

You MUST get a test kit, there is simply no reason or excuse not too. DO NOT feed any thing yet. Out of interest what type of filtration do you have?

I wont mention tank size etc........

I dont understand why you are holding off on the test kit, this isnt a nice have, it is absolutely essential to have one. The fact you have got several years out of the fish is simply down to pure luck, this luck has now run out.

If you cant afford a test kit, i am sorry to say you cant afford to keep the fish. I have a feeling based upon your reluctance to part with a relatively small amount of money, that you wont actually buy a new tank, like many people you will say what it takes to get help.

Your fish may looked improved at the moment, but this can often be a function of bacterial behavior and immune response. I would guess the Leukocytes have kicked in and reduced the bacterial load in the blood, however this bacteria has a habit of adapting and overwhelming the immune response.

I would not be surprised if it took a turn for the worse in a day or so, if it does then its game over. Please stop wasting time, go and get a test kit. You are making the people here work blind, they wont to help you and your obstructing that help with a passive response.

And do listen to what others have told you, it is great advice. Wash your hands well after dabbling in the aquarium, you dont want that bacteria getting into a cut in your skin or whatever , it has been widely known to cause necrotic fasciatus in humans

 

[Yuki Rihwa]

Considering this is the internet, you have been given some absolutely sound advice. The redness is indeed likely to be sepsis, based on your location and details in this thread, i would hazard a guess at a secondary bacterial infection with Aeromonas Hydrophilia.

Be VERY careful with this bacteria, it is Zoonotic and very common, the pattern of redness is a dead give away of it, also note your not out of the woods yet.

You MUST get a test kit, there is simply no reason or excuse not too. DO NOT feed any thing yet. Out of interest what type of filtration do you have?

I wont mention tank size etc........

I dont understand why you are holding off on the test kit, this isnt a nice have, it is absolutely essential to have one. The fact you have got several years out of the fish is simply down to pure luck, this luck has now run out.

If you cant afford a test kit, i am sorry to say you cant afford to keep the fish. I have a feeling based upon your reluctance to part with a relatively small amount of money, that you wont actually buy a new tank, like many people you will say what it takes to get help.

Your fish may looked improved at the moment, but this can often be a function of bacterial behavior and immune response. I would guess the Leukocytes have kicked in and reduced the bacterial load in the blood, however this bacteria has a habit of adapting and overwhelming the immune response.

I would not be surprised if it took a turn for the worse in a day or so, if it does then its game over. Please stop wasting time, go and get a test kit. You are making the people here work blind, they wont to help you and your obstructing that help with a passive response.

And do listen to what others have told you, it is great advice. Wash your hands well after dabbling in the aquarium, you dont want that bacteria getting into a cut in your skin or whatever , it has been widely known to cause necrotic fasciatus in humans

+10 Very well said.

 

[predatorkeeper87]

Considering this is the internet, you have been given some absolutely sound advice. The redness is indeed likely to be sepsis, based on your location and details in this thread, i would hazard a guess at a secondary bacterial infection with Aeromonas Hydrophilia.

Be VERY careful with this bacteria, it is Zoonotic and very common, the pattern of redness is a dead give away of it, also note your not out of the woods yet.

You MUST get a test kit, there is simply no reason or excuse not too. DO NOT feed any thing yet. Out of interest what type of filtration do you have?

I wont mention tank size etc........

I dont understand why you are holding off on the test kit, this isnt a nice have, it is absolutely essential to have one. The fact you have got several years out of the fish is simply down to pure luck, this luck has now run out.

If you cant afford a test kit, i am sorry to say you cant afford to keep the fish. I have a feeling based upon your reluctance to part with a relatively small amount of money, that you wont actually buy a new tank, like many people you will say what it takes to get help.

Your fish may looked improved at the moment, but this can often be a function of bacterial behavior and immune response. I would guess the Leukocytes have kicked in and reduced the bacterial load in the blood, however this bacteria has a habit of adapting and overwhelming the immune response.

I would not be surprised if it took a turn for the worse in a day or so, if it does then its game over. Please stop wasting time, go and get a test kit. You are making the people here work blind, they wont to help you and your obstructing that help with a passive response.

And do listen to what others have told you, it is great advice. Wash your hands well after dabbling in the aquarium, you dont want that bacteria getting into a cut in your skin or whatever , it has been widely known to cause necrotic fasciatus in humans

unfortunately this is just another case of the OP reading what he wants to hear, he doesn't care about the sound advice or giving his fish a better environment to thrive in-he simply wants the fish to survive because he thinks what he is doing is completely ok.

 

[Doc-Fish]

This is one reason those that wish large fish to be banned, have ample reasons to get their way. It is so sad that the keeping of large species falls into 3 groups.

1) Those that genuinely had no idea the 1 inch fish, was merely a 4 foot monster waiting to grow.

2) Those that know the fish will grow but dont care, these types often buy the fish to impress others, they have zero intention of learning how to keep them. How can anybody keep a fish for several years, and yet be totally ignorant of their needs?
in the modern era the shear amount of information available is incredible, to not take advantage of that information is simply unacceptable.


3) Those that research the fish, my favorite of person! They gather information and equipment, they read EVERYTHING they can find on the species. Eventually they go buy the fish, after being confident they have the knowledge and equipment to keep it.
Rarely if ever does this type show off the fish to boast, rarely do they get friends to gather to watch the fish feed.

I want to help as much as others do, however i admit i am struggling to get my head around your attitude. It is often a sign of ignorance when someone puts a wholly inappropriate chemical in their aquarium. let me ask you this....

If we totally rely upon micro organisms (and we do) to keep the water parameters in balance, just how sane is it to put ANTI microbial compounds into a water column? You do understand that these chemicals are used to kill microbes dont you?

if you have to use a chemical, then use a bath always, look at the literature. You will find most scientific studies involving aquatic disease, use chemical/compound baths, they do not add chemicals to the main aquarium! Do not think professional methods are solely for professional, they are are everyone!

 

[Stanzzzz7]

This is one reason those that wish large fish to be banned, have ample reasons to get their way. It is so sad that the keeping of large species falls into 3 groups.

1) Those that genuinely had no idea the 1 inch fish, was merely a 4 foot monster waiting to grow.

2) Those that know the fish will grow but dont care, these types often buy the fish to impress others, they have zero intention of learning how to keep them. How can anybody keep a fish for several years, and yet be totally ignorant of their needs?
in the modern era the shear amount of information available is incredible, to not take advantage of that information is simply unacceptable.


3) Those that research the fish, my favorite of person! They gather information and equipment, they read EVERYTHING they can find on the species. Eventually they go buy the fish, after being confident they have the knowledge and equipment to keep it.
Rarely if ever does this type show off the fish to boast, rarely do they get friends to gather to watch the fish feed.

I want to help as much as others do, however i admit i am struggling to get my head around your attitude. It is often a sign of ignorance when someone puts a wholly inappropriate chemical in their aquarium. let me ask you this....

If we totally rely upon micro organisms (and we do) to keep the water parameters in balance, just how sane is it to put ANTI microbial compounds into a water column? You do understand that these chemicals are used to kill microbes dont you?

if you have to use a chemical, then use a bath always, look at the literature. You will find most scientific studies involving aquatic disease, use chemical/compound baths, they do not add chemicals to the main aquarium! Do not think professional methods are solely for professional, they are are everyone!

I couldn't agree more.

 

[DN328]

Days gone by and we still have no clue what the water parameters are? OP, did you order the kit yet?

As I often say, sometimes people have their minds made up and don't want to be confused with the facts.

 

[Doc-Fish]

I think the general pinion was spot on, poor water coupled with introduced infection and a compromised immune system.

I also think the op's response makes it clear he isnt interested in doing the right thing.

Reminds me of a conversation by phone a few months back...

" Hi i got a fish thats sick"

me. what kind of fish

" its silvery black, sort of"

me. do you know the name?

" no idea i got it off a mate"

me. what can you tell me about it?

"its big, about 11 inches. and i have had it about 5 weeks"

me. Whats wrong with it?

" its wedged in the tank, and its really pale"

me. what do you mean wedged? And what does it look like?

"its got stuck between the front and some wood, its got a big head and funny teeth almost like human teeth, its really ugly"

At this point my heart sank, i already knew the guy had a 3 foot tank! he is a friend of a friend so to speak. I had a hideous feeling what he had in the tank, so i agreed to go look at it.
Several hours later i was on the way home with a 17 inch Colossoma macropomum!!

Not enough room now in my fish house for more monsters, so its in a lab at work swimming happily with 5 silver sharks. What made me laugh was the guy telling me they had teased it by wiggling their fingers in the tank!! Even at 17 inches i wouldnt want to do that!

 

[Doc-Fish]

Why would you try and tease something with teeth like this?


Granted at 17" its nowhere as big, but even so its teeth are not funny.

 

[Yuki Rihwa]

hahaha when I read to the part "human teeth" I knew right away a freaking Pacu lol