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masone

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Gahandi;4541511; said:
not to be an a-hole here, but just because it can survive in freshwater, doesn't make it true freshwater eel. I thought those kinds off eel required brackish water normally?

http://fishprofiles.com/profiles/freshwater/OthersFW/Gymnothorax_polyuranodon/
Link is pretty weak, try fishbase in a pinch. First the common name of snowflake refers to G. tile. Also the pic is G. tile, not polyuranodon. This is what gets sold as a freshwater moray but is really a brackish moray at best.

G. polyuranodon is a true freshwater moray and lives in freshwater in the wild. All the specimens in captivity here were caught in full fresh, yes it may occur in brackish or marine conditions but so do JP and barramundi, doesn't make them any less of a freshwater fish. Random websites are not the final word, I will trust what I have seen and what the people studying them tell me.

As for swamp eels, great alternative to long or short fin eels. We have at least two species, Monopterus albus and Ophisternon gutterale, but there are probably other sp here that get mis-identified as the two common species.
 

Antony

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Thanks for all the info guys, I hope I didn't hijack your thread. Those swamp eels look interesting, never seen them before.

I'm fascinated by the morays, I was under the same impression as Gahandi. It would awesome to see more of these in the hobby but I'm assuming it won't be for a long time, if ever.
 

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Antony;4544539; said:
Thanks for all the info guys, I hope I didn't hijack your thread. Those swamp eels look interesting, never seen them before.

I'm fascinated by the morays, I was under the same impression as Gahandi. It would awesome to see more of these in the hobby but I'm assuming it won't be for a long time, if ever.
Yeah don't hold your breath on the morays. Having said that, they may end up being captive bred. Being catadromous the method should be along the lines of breeding barra/jp/jacks etc. The small number in captivity just makes it hard to experiment and really give anything a good try. We will be going collecting for more in the next few weeks, will try and get pics. Bit hard taking shots at night while spotlighting eels and keeping an eye out for water geckoes.
 

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masone;4544491; said:
Link is pretty weak, try fishbase in a pinch. First the common name of snowflake refers to G. tile. Also the pic is G. tile, not polyuranodon. This is what gets sold as a freshwater moray but is really a brackish moray at best.

G. polyuranodon is a true freshwater moray and lives in freshwater in the wild. All the specimens in captivity here were caught in full fresh, yes it may occur in brackish or marine conditions but so do JP and barramundi, doesn't make them any less of a freshwater fish. Random websites are not the final word, I will trust what I have seen and what the people studying them tell me.

As for swamp eels, great alternative to long or short fin eels. We have at least two species, Monopterus albus and Ophisternon gutterale, but there are probably other sp here that get mis-identified as the two common species.
Just clearing this up personally here, so if i were to magically acquire one, i could keep it permanently in freshwater, without even once worrying about changing the water type? (unlike certain species of fish the lfs decides to sell as fresh, but need to be changed to brackish several months after buying:irked:) I've always wanted a moray, but never had the patience/guts/experience to start a marine tank. I am now intrigued :)
 

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Gahandi;4544559; said:
Just clearing this up personally here, so if i were to magically acquire one, i could keep it permanently in freshwater, without even once worrying about changing the water type? (unlike certain species of fish the lfs decides to sell as fresh, but need to be changed to brackish several months after buying:irked:) I've always wanted a moray, but never had the patience/guts/experience to start a marine tank. I am now intrigued :)
Pretty much, I would be more comfortable keeping one in full fresh for life than I would be for scats or jacks. The only reason I don't keep them is they are insane escape artists.

Some pics Brendan Ebner took of one my mate has. He has about 4.

 

Danzig86

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masone;4544572; said:
Pretty much, I would be more comfortable keeping one in full fresh for life than I would be for scats or jacks. The only reason I don't keep them is they are insane escape artists.

Some pics Brendan Ebner took of one my mate has. He has about 4.

Theyre the images i got a while back when i googled em, i swear i saw one up river here but its no where near the ocean and dosnet even connect unless someone let it go there
 

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Danzig86;4544595; said:
Theyre the images i got a while back when i googled em, i swear i saw one up river here but its no where near the ocean and dosnet even connect unless someone let it go there
Where are you located? Honestly there is very little known about the Australian population including distribution. It is generally accepted that they occur from Cairns area and extend north in coastal creeks. Still not sure if our population is distinct or if there are eels that have entered freshwater after being carried on currents from PNG/Indsth east asia/fiji etc as larva.

Given the value of them I doubt anyone would intentially let one go, talking about a reasonably expensive fish here (mate sold one recently for 800).
 

Gahandi

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hoorah, this eel just jumped straight to the top of my next fish list XD only, i consider 99 bucks expensive for a fish, i'm not too sure if i could force myself to pay 800 for one. got any idea on average life span?
 

Danzig86

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i spotted it at the Allyns river, Barrington tops, nsw, what their temp range???
I posted on here the weekend i spotted it, im goin back up in November, so ill be hawking it and taking pics.
 

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Danzig86;4544729; said:
i spotted it at the Allyns river, Barrington tops, nsw, what their temp range???
I posted on here the weekend i spotted it, im goin back up in November, so ill be hawking it and taking pics.
Probably a combination of some mind altering substance and an Anguilla species lol. :ROFL:
 
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