Butterfly Asian Arowana

[jjohnwm]

Definitely not my cup of tea; I would be holding out for the longfin shortbody glofish version...

Sorry, but the word that leaps to mind is "abomination".

 

[fishhead0103666]

Definitely not my cup of tea; I would be holding out for the longfin shortbody glofish version...

Sorry, but the word that leaps to mind is "abomination".

I am not trying to start a fight as I am merely curious but why is that? The long fin is a naturally occurring thing in fish so why is something natural an abomination?

 

[BIG-G]

To it looks quite unnatural... It's disturbing and I don't like it.

I get it. I’m not a fan of Arowanas in general.
Not any. Even the Asian. But something about the color of this one an the way it fades into the long fins is pretty cool, to me

Definitely not my cup of tea; I would be holding out for the longfin shortbody glofish version...

Sorry, but the word that leaps to mind is "abomination".

That’s a little harsh. Lol
But I understand.
I think the same thing about blood parrots and some of the flowerhorns with kok so big they can’t even see.
Oh and don’t get me started on some of the gold fish varieties.
Celestial bubble eyes drive me nuts looking at them.

 

[jjohnwm]

Just a personal opinion. How is it natural? If this mutation were to occur in nature, that individual fry would be the first one caught and eaten and would never survive to adulthood. Natural selection, weeding out the individuals least suited to survive. Evolution in action.

Here, we have an individual fish hand selected by a breeder to survive, likely while its siblings would be culled. We have created a totally artificial situation in which a trait that would be the kiss of death in nature is instead a positive survival trait. Devolution in action. Some people, like myself, find it unappealing.

Edited to add: I totally agree with BIG-G on other "abominations" like Flowerhorns, Superfancy Goldfish, Parrots...and go so far as to include overly-bred critters like some Bulldogs or Persian Cats. Fish that can barely swim...cats that can barely breathe...dogs that need to be artificially inseminated because they can't...well, you get the picture. Ugh.

 

[fishhead0103666]

“If this mutation were to occur in the wild”, right there, that is how it is natural because it *can* occur in the wild and without any help. Whether it survives or not is another thing. One could very easily say the same thing about albinos but wild albino fish are still found.

Needless to say I am thankful you were willing to share your opinion as it has help given me insight to this.

 

[BIG-G]

Just a personal opinion. How is it natural? If this mutation were to occur in nature, that individual fry would be the first one caught and eaten and would never survive to adulthood. Natural selection, weeding out the individuals least suited to survive. Evolution in action.

Here, we have an individual fish hand selected by a breeder to survive, likely while its siblings would be culled. We have created a totally artificial situation in which a trait that would be the kiss of death in nature is instead a positive survival trait. Devolution in action. Some people, like myself, find it unappealing.

Edited to add: I totally agree with BIG-G on other "abominations" like Flowerhorns, Superfancy Goldfish, Parrots...and go so far as to include overly-bred critters like some Bulldogs or Persian Cats. Fish that can barely swim...cats that can barely breathe...dogs that need to be artificially inseminated because they can't...well, you get the picture. Ugh.

“If this mutation were to occur in the wild”, right there, that is how it is natural because it *can* occur in the wild and without any help. Whether it survives or not is another thing. One could very easily say the same thing about albinos but wild albino fish are still found.

Needless to say I am thankful you were willing to share your opinion as it has help given me insight to this.

Technically you are both right. IMO it’s just selective breeding for a specific trait.
With a lot of the traits humans breed for they wouldn’t survive long in the wild.

 

[jjohnwm]

Yes, I didn't mean to imply that it can't or doesn't occur, merely that it isn't something that is able to survive.

I like aquariums as a window into nature, not as a late-night sci-fi channel horror movie marathon.

 

[jaws7777]

LOL....how'd they get a betta and an aro to breed?
J jaws7777

My earlier reply didnt make it through. Nice fish. Nice colors.

 

[MatteoTheEnder22]

Just a personal opinion. How is it natural? If this mutation were to occur in nature, that individual fry would be the first one caught and eaten and would never survive to adulthood. Natural selection, weeding out the individuals least suited to survive. Evolution in action.

Here, we have an individual fish hand selected by a breeder to survive, likely while its siblings would be culled. We have created a totally artificial situation in which a trait that would be the kiss of death in nature is instead a positive survival trait. Devolution in action. Some people, like myself, find it unappealing.

Edited to add: I totally agree with BIG-G on other "abominations" like Flowerhorns, Superfancy Goldfish, Parrots...and go so far as to include overly-bred critters like some Bulldogs or Persian Cats. Fish that can barely swim...cats that can barely breathe...dogs that need to be artificially inseminated because they can't...well, you get the picture. Ugh.

You know with what your stating your saying humans are unnatural too right because we give an “Artificial” chance at life for all humans so i agree with fishhead0103666 that if it can occur naturally in the wild it wouldn't be an abomination

 

[beau1990]

I like it personally. I always watched my bettas and wished they could be super sized and here it is, sorta