Butterfly Asian Arowana

[BIG-G]

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What a lot of people don't know is, that this isn't just something that naturally occurs and those fish get sold to hobbyists that want them, hell no, there is a market for such "deformities" and some breeders use hormones and such things to create more of them...

Was the study you cited experimental on the fish for the purpose of modifying the fish or to study the effects of the drug in question?

I know hormone dosing does happen in the hobby. I would guess that the reason is mainly to effect color, size or general growth rates.

Breeding for a trait that is being produced by selective breeding programs like short bodied or albinism or even longer fins, isn’t something that is being produced by hormone dosing. As far as I know.

If anyone has knowledge of this correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[Leo Messi]

Was the study you cited experimental on the fish for the purpose of modifying the fish or to study the effects of the drug in question?

I know hormone dosing does happen in the hobby. I would guess that the reason is mainly to effect color, size or general growth rates.

Breeding for a trait that is being produced by selective breeding programs like short bodied or albinism or even longer fins, isn’t something that is being produced by hormone dosing. As far as I know.

If anyone has knowledge of this correct me if I’m wrong.

Not sure about that. I was just shown and told my an owner of an Arowana farm. And you're definitely right, he also told me a lot of farms and shops use hormones for color.

 

[stratos]

Hormone use is a problem with some Asian arowana farms, especially the "fly by night" kind who don't plan on building reputation over time. And yes, there is a market for deformed Asian arowana.

 

[BIG-G]

Hormone use is a problem with some Asian arowana farms, especially the "fly by night" kind who don't plan on building reputation over time. And yes, there is a market for deformed Asian arowana.




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Are those actual for sale?
Short bodied and long fin varieties are one thing, but this is disgusting to me!
Deformed and broken spine should be put down IMO.
I see conjoined and cyclops fish before and think that any good breeder would have culled these fish long before they could be introduced to market much less the gene pool!

 

[stratos]

You can find buyers for anything truly exotic and rare. Yes, that was for sale and I took the photos. I also don't like them, nor do I like the "butterfly fish" or the "king arowana." Call me old school or traditional in that regard.

 

[Magnus_Bane]

Hormone use is a problem with some Asian arowana farms, especially the "fly by night" kind who don't plan on building reputation over time. And yes, there is a market for deformed Asian arowana.




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This fish honestly has "kill me" written all over it. I can understand wanting to help a handicapped fish but there is a fine line between helping a fish live a normal life vs forcing a fish to live and suffer just because ya can't force yourself to do what's right for the animal. Sometimes an animal is just better off dead then being kept alive just to suffer a long miserable life.

Honestly, to me, the aro in OP's pic (the butterfly) it maybe deformed but it can still live a relatively normal life without any major complications. Should it be bred for this trait? Absolutely not. But it doesn't need to be put down like the one in this pic here. This one shouldn't have been allowed to live this long, I can only imagine how painful it is for this poor aro to even do the most mundane tasks.

 

[Magnus_Bane]

You can find buyers for anything truly exotic and rare. Yes, that was for sale and I took the photos. I also don't like them, nor do I like the "butterfly fish" or the "king arowana." Call me old school or traditional in that regard.

I'd have to agree with ya on that one. I definitely prefer how a natural aro looks vs these mutated ones. The butterfly looks like somebody decided to cross an aro with a betta while the king's just look like the hunch back of noterdam.

Me personally if I could have any aro in the world I'd want a regular black aro, nothing fancy but still very nice looking.

 

[Leo Messi]

because ya can't force yourself to do what's right for the animal

It's usually not that they don't have the guts to euthanize such a fish. It's money and money only. Some people pay big bucks for a deformed Arowana. There sadly is a market for such fish and thats the only reason they're not getting culled.

 

[Magnus_Bane]

It's usually not that they don't have the guts to euthanize such a fish. It's money and money only. Some people pay big bucks for a deformed Arowana. There sadly is a market for such fish and thats the only reason they're not getting culled.

Yeah sadly that's the case for allot of animals. Wish it would stop but that'll never happen.

 

[ThornTheOscar]

Just something I saw on Instagram.
Long fin Asian Arowana.
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That’s a really nice Asian arowana?I’ve never seen a butterfly arowana nither never knew they was a butterfly arowana