Can an oscar live in a 30 gallon its whole life?

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Sorry, but this is not true. An oscar is not going to just stop growing at 6-8 inches, because its in a 30 gallon tank.

Unless the person is taking poor care of the oscar, in which it MIGHT stunt its growth... and to stunt an oscar's growth, you'd have to be one very poor fishkeeper... an oscar will continue to grow to its maximum size with proper water changes and diet regardless if you have it in a 10 gallon tank or a 300 gallon tank.

-Rich

Did I mention plant based foods will help to decrease his size?
You are not getting to the point. How come, when I keep a red devil in a 20g it only grows to 6 or 7 inches. It was a male, I gave it regular water changes, and I fed him nothing but veggies?
 
Did I mention plant based foods will help to decrease his size?
You are not getting to the point. How come, when I keep a red devil in a 20g it only grows to 6 or 7 inches. It was a male, I gave it regular water changes, and I fed him nothing but veggies?

Notice in my post I said with "proper water changes and diet". While you may be able to stunt the growth with a veggie only diet... which I cannot say is or is not true, since this is my first hearing such a thing... a veggie only diet is not the proper diet for these fish. These fish require meat protein in their diets, in order for the diet to be "proper". So sure... if you rob them of some part of their diet they otherwise would be getting in the wild, then I suppose you could successfully stunt your fish, to squeeze it into a smaller tank.

Your point is well made, and I stand corrected.

-Rich
 
Well if someone is deliberately feeding their Oscar vegetables only, to purposely stunt their growth so they can keep it in a small tank, that person should not keep Oscars, or cichlids for that matter.
 
No way an oscar could live in a 30g for life no matter how many water changes you do. Stunting growth really causes health problems, and the O won't live that long. I would never keep a fish of that size in a 55g or even a 75g now. I had a 13'' O in a 72g and felt that tank was way too small. Oscars are very active cichlids that need a lot of swimming room. I just don't understand why people buy what they want w/ out providing the best care for the animal. Its wasting money and the animal suffers in the end. How would your friend feel if he or she lived in a closet for life?
 
Did I mention plant based foods will help to decrease his size?
You are not getting to the point. How come, when I keep a red devil in a 20g it only grows to 6 or 7 inches. It was a male, I gave it regular water changes, and I fed him nothing but veggies?


wait, let me get this straight. You're suggesting that keeping an Oscar in a 30 gallon is acceptable because YOU fed a known predator/carnivore an improper diet so that it would fit in a 20 gallon tank?

really lol

to the Op, no a 30 gallon tank is not acceptable for long term housing of an Oscar, regardless of what you choose to feed or not feed you fish. Providing an improper diet to stunt the growth of your fish is probably not the best idea either. Buy a bigger tank, or choose a smaller type of fish if you can't or won't.
 
Technically it could live in a 5 gallon for its entire life, of course that wouldn't be very long though. One oscar needs at least 75 gallons.
 
Full grown oscar will not fit in 30 yes. But people buy oscars at small sizes so they can raise their fish into the max size in that aquarium. An oscar will get no bigger than 6-8 inches in a 30 gallon.

Any fish can live long in a 30. Will they be happy? Probably not. It depends on you, and how you feel about the fish. Living in a small tank.
If you feed your oscar good plant based foods, expect him to live over 10 years.
Growing out potentially large fish in a 30 is one thing, forcing them to survive in a 30 for life is another. Stunting a fish to force it to live in inadequate housing happens all the time, both intentionally and unintentionally by many people. If you continually provide a fish with the bare minimum of their diet or reduce a major part of their nutritional needs and then compound that by keeping it in a small tank, yes, the fish will be stunted and survive in the situation provided. That isn't proper growth or responsible fish keeping IMHO. We try to help each other make responsible decisions that will benefit both our hobby and our fish. Suggesting that stunting an Oscar and keeping it in a 30 gallon tank for ten years is really not contributing to the responsible information that many come to this site to share and receive. You can get that sort of misinformation on random Google searches. But as you say, it can be done. I just believe that it shouldn't if one is trying to provide the minimal best for any large cichlid. I also know that at times people can go to extremes when it comes to suggesting minimal tank sizes for particular fish. Personally, I'd rather have a fish with way too much room than one with barely enough to move. Feed a fish NLS, Hikari, Xtreme, veggies...whatever you want, just have a realistic approach to keeping large fish. If you can't buy the proper tank, don't buy the fish. I'll leave the in depth nutritional studies of Cichlids to those members who are more versed on the subject than I am. I hope all of this helps the OP to make a good decision.
 
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