thanks ryan , cool site. yes they must be really harmfull to the local ecosystem. like the snakehead situation in north america
CICHLIDS IN FLORIDA RIVERS?
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YEa Florida has lots a crapload of fish because of the recent freeze. I'm sure some survived but a lot got wiped out.
Supposedly there was a population of Beani released into a pond in northern california but they were wiped out years ago. I know Austroloheros 'red ceibal' can survive and thrive in cali winters. Some geo types as well. As a kid I kept a huge lima shovelnose cat in our backyard pond for years and it thrived. Red devils as well.
People who knowingly release invasive species of ANY animal into local waterways or the environment should be arrested, fined and do jail time. That's one of the main reasons we don't have Snakeheads in the hobby now. Some knuckle dragging moron wasn't thinking beyond their own immediate needs.
i dont know what damage there really doing. i never hear of anything that its impacting. i always hear ooh invasive cichlids in florida but are they really doing any damage? if so plz enlighten me as i really never seen on tv of any fishermen or fish commission talking about it. like when they purposely reintroduced wolves into yellowstone so they could have a couple hundred and now theres thousands and the elk population will never be the same now thats a impact thats been heard everywhere. how come i never hear about cichlids in florida reeping havok?
fishguts;3826340; said:
Your not serious are you?
Everytime you introduce a fish that was not naturally there it has the possiblity of outcompeting a native fish and driving it to extinction. You don't see it talked about because most people don't care. Go fishing in the everglades and see what you catch. Tilapia, oscars, and mayans are the majority. So were are all the native fish that you would have caught if these fish would not have been introduced? Evolution did not prepare them to compete with the outside entruders so they have very little chance.
jgentry;3826576; said:
i asked you to enlighten me and you did. you said that going fishing and you mostly catch tilapia and oscars and mayans. i had no idea it was like that. i thought it was rare to hook a non native fish but that prooves what im saying if you know this and i did not then the fish commission are not doing there job and letting everyone know about it i live about 1700 miles from there and when i hear people on the forum mentioning they caught a mayan or jag or something i thought it was like wow thats pretty rare. i did not know they were common to catch. so why dont they go around probing with electric rods and start collecting the non native fish? there not going to eliminate them but they could at least keep the nembers down. wow been in fishkeeping all these years and did not know that cichlids were that free roaming in floriday waters. more thought if you got caught one you were real lucky.
fishguts;3826833; said:
Sorry if I came off rude. That was not my entent. But seriously, some spots you can go fishing and catch 200-300 non natives in about 6 hours of fishing. I have a great Aunt and Uncle that live down there and I go every so often just for fish with them. One day we cleaned at least 200 mayans or mayan hybrids. The mayans and oscars do taste pretty good
.Cichlids are pretty common all over the southern part of florida but some places seem to have a ton of them. Mayans just can outcompete a lot of fish because they can take a good amount of salinity or live in pure fresh water. Oscars can do pretty much the same as well but not nearly to the levels of mayans.
fishguts;3826833; said:
I'd think they are already too widespread for this to work. And the way they reproduce there's no way one can control them this way....this is exactly why it's so dangerous to introduce non-native species.
Perhaps we should all go on collecting trips in Florida
jgentry;3826872; said:The mayans and oscars do taste pretty good
What happened to your big old Oscar??
