Discrimination against men with long hair in work places

[ballinouttacntrol]

I understand where you're coming from completely. Personally, I don't think that anyone should need to cut off their hair just so they can get a job, I know I never would. My hair is past my back, and is very long. I'd never cut it off for anyone! But then again... if you're an *employer* and you want your workers to look professional.. and in your view if they do not look professional with long hair.. if they are going to work for you and get paid for it.. it says a lot that they are willing to take your money but not make a sacrifice for the job you're employing them for.

Just another way of looking at it! But I do think it's unfair to not employ someone just because of the length of their hair.

Girls having long hair is completely different. This would be more along the line of hiring girls for appearance and you refusing to change your appearance to take said job (which happens) or girls with short hair having a hard time finding a job

Look at starbucks for example. They started off in seattle with people that we'd call grung, skater, emo by today's standards but now they promote a clean cut look with bubbly personalities. I don't see why a business should change their rules (make a sacrifice) to uphold their image

 

[Bderick67]

I've been looking into the psychology behind it, from what it sounds, and this makes perfect sense to me, is that men with short hair and no facial hair have a more feminine and more submissive look, like a young boy or a female. Men cut their hair to please their superiors by showing them that they are obedient, which takes away from the man's power, making him feel less like a man by being more submissive, just as I feel about it, which is why I've never cut my hair for my girlfriend.

What a statement So this is why I have short hair Doesn't have anything to do with the fact that I find long hair uncomfortable, hot and a PITA to take care of.


BTW I work in the construction industry, the length of anyone hair is of little concern. Maybe this is where you should be looking. Though if you are typical of your generation you too are afraid of any type hard physical labor.

 

[Delhezi222]

I've been looking into the psychology behind it, from what it sounds, and this makes perfect sense to me, is that men with short hair and no facial hair have a more feminine and more submissive look, like a young boy or a female. Men cut their hair to please their superiors by showing them that they are obedient, which takes away from the man's power, making him feel less like a man by being more submissive, just as I feel about it, which is why I've never cut my hair for my girlfriend.

I'm sorry, that just sounds a bit ridiculous though. Men with short hair look feminine? I have never seen a man with short hair and thought he looked feminine or submissive, but I have seen many men with long hair who at first glance I thought were women. And did you ever think that maybe it's a lot simpler than that? I've grown my hair out before, and quite honestly I found it hot and hard to manage. It's just a lot more practical to have short hair.

 

[thorpbrian]

As a manager who hires people on a very regular basis I'm going to guess that it's not your hair and, instead, something else your doing in the interview. If NO ONE is hiring you it's not logical to think ALL OF THEM are discriminating against you because you have long hair. I could care less about the length of someone's hair when I interview them as long they look professional, are qualified for the job and sell themselves as capable during the interview. That EVERY person who's interviewed you is discriminating against you because of your hair is very illogical. Generally, your average person is logical and non-discriminatory for the most part. Thus, to think you aren't getting a job because every person interviewing you doesn't like long hair doesn't make sense. I'd look for other reasons....

 

[nomad]

If having long hair is so important to you, you should have pick a career that allows it .

 

[phillydog1958]

I'm not aware of your field of expertise, but there are fields where long hair is somewhat acceptable. Often times, creative fields tend to have more liberal dress codes. Music, writing, computer programming are a few. Also, you can get a haircut or start your own business.

You're implying that companies attempt to emasculate men by forcing them to get haircuts. I disagree. I think you might be referring to the armed forces and even they can justify the Need for short hair.

You sound like a nonconformist and that's OK. Just understand that being a rebel calls for a willingness to pay a price.

 

[fhawk362]

As a manager who hires people on a very regular basis I'm going to guess that it's not your hair and, instead, something else your doing in the interview. If NO ONE is hiring you it's not logical to think ALL OF THEM are discriminating against you because you have long hair. I could care less about the length of someone's hair when I interview them as long they look professional, are qualified for the job and sell themselves as capable during the interview. That EVERY person who's interviewed you is discriminating against you because of your hair is very illogical. Generally, your average person is logical and non-discriminatory for the most part. Thus, to think you aren't getting a job because every person interviewing you doesn't like long hair doesn't make sense. I'd look for other reasons....

I'm sorry if I mislead anyone, but I do not believe in anyway that I have not gotten a job that doesn't have preset guidelines about men with long hair due to my long hair. I am strictly referring to jobs that clearly mandate that men must have hair above their collar, or shorter. For instance, Disney World clearly states that male employees are not allowed to have hair beyond their collar. This is what bothers me, not me thinking the interviewer hasn't given me the job because I have long hair, I am strictly going on facts. Also, I had an interview at a company called Amazing pictures (colorvision), and when I went in the receptionist told me that they do not hire anyone until they match the appropriate look, which is when she pointed out my hair and said it must be cut to acquire a job at our company.

 

[fhawk362]

I'm not aware of your field of expertise, but there are fields where long hair is somewhat acceptable. Often times, creative fields tend to have more liberal dress codes. Music, writing, computer programming are a few. Also, you can get a haircut or start your own business.

You're implying that companies attempt to emasculate men by forcing them to get haircuts. I disagree. I think you might be referring to the armed forces and even they can justify the Need for short hair.

You sound like a nonconformist and that's OK. Just understand that being a rebel calls for a willingness to pay a price.

Ok, forget the psychology mumbo jumbo then, I understand not everyone agrees with it and I'm sure it doesn't apply to every human being in the world. Just as I disbelieve Freud's theory that we have sexual attractions to our parents. Also, I have picked a career that does allow for long hair, I am in school to become a conservation biologist, fisheries biologist. But I am currently looking for a job to pay rent. I even got an interview for a position at Crocs at the local mall and the guy giving me the interview had longer hair then I did. I just can't believe some companies can still get away with setting rules against men with long hair just on appearance.

 

[fhawk362]

As a manager who hires people on a very regular basis I'm going to guess that it's not your hair and, instead, something else your doing in the interview. If NO ONE is hiring you it's not logical to think ALL OF THEM are discriminating against you because you have long hair. I could care less about the length of someone's hair when I interview them as long they look professional, are qualified for the job and sell themselves as capable during the interview. That EVERY person who's interviewed you is discriminating against you because of your hair is very illogical. Generally, your average person is logical and non-discriminatory for the most part. Thus, to think you aren't getting a job because every person interviewing you doesn't like long hair doesn't make sense. I'd look for other reasons....

Please read my posts, they explain to you what I am getting at, I agree with you I just want you to understand where I am coming from.

 

[fhawk362]

I hire professionals for a living. I don't discriminate against guys with long hair and/or beards. It's about overall appearance, as the company wants staff to look neat. Short hair is not about femininity. It's about conformance. Its about being the same as everyone else, just like the military used to be. I don't; think you can have long hair in the military, but you can have facial hair now.

Much of the business world is still run by the old boy's network. The Old Boys think if you have long hair, then you're a dope smoking hippie or a man who likes men. I even see local civic employees with long hair, so there may still be some discrimination, but things are changing! Even in the Tim Horton's, there are guys with long hair. Of course their hair is in a net, but they still have long hair.

My brother's in the military, he cut his hair, and atleast in the navy he is still mandated to maintain a clean shave. But you are correct, the long hair rules are going away, which I am happy for, thats what was so surprising when I found out that three of the places I applied to do not allow long hair, Disney world, publix, and Amazing pictures (a local photography company).