High five for long hair! I'd say, cut it for a job, but if it's import enough for you to turn down a job for you, more power to ya'. I will grow my hair until the Zoo I work at tells me to tie it back.
Discrimination against men with long hair in work places
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frnchjeep;4417630; said:ay ay ay... I never said it was... to either of your questions. 1st, you are correct. Long hair isn't a religion.Not a tough one to figure out. Long hair is PART of several religions. It is in the eeoc code that it is illegal to discriminate against any part of a religion as long as it doesn't cause undue hardship to the employers operation of business.
2nd. no it is not "CLEARLY not a case of religious discrimination". There is no such thing as clearly in this kind of situation, as I'm sure the employer didn't ask if it was part of a religion, and probably just started rambling about company policy. If this perspective employee decided to claim religious discrimination, the employer would have some explaining to do, and it wouldn't be fun or easy. Thats the type of thing that gets people fired or worse. All i'm saying is it is a very risky move with serious consequences over something as trivial as the physical appearance of your employees.
Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but most Sikhs have their hair up in a turban (which is also part of their religion), and normally its braided underneath and i doubt OP had his hair up like that, plus i doubt he was wearing the bracelet that all Sikhs wear as part of their religion which is worn since birth...
As for being a Rasta, can't argue this point, since i'm not sure how many people practice this religion over in the US, or what they wear that really can define them as a rasta just by looking, so maybe you could argue that point although it'd still be pushing it...
Anyway, to the OP, just good to hear you landed a job... sometimes giving up something like a bit of hair is worth it... i mean its not like it will never grow back... unless your starting to thin out really badly in which case, different story...
frnchjeep;4417271; said:Long hair and facial hair is part of some religions.So are piercings and tattoos. Basing employment on such things ( and having the balls to voice it) is a decision that could end you up in some hot water. People have sued and won over way less before.
EDIT: This is right from the EEOC website:
Religious Accommodation/Dress & Grooming Policies
Unless it would be an undue hardship on the employer's operation of its business, an employer must reasonably accommodate an employee's religious beliefs or practices. This applies not only to schedule changes or leave for religious observances, but also to such things as dress or grooming practices that an employee has for religious reasons. These might include, for example, wearing particular head coverings or other religious dress (such as a Jewish yarmulke or a Muslim headscarf), or wearing certain hairstyles or facial hair (such as Rastafarian dreadlocks or Sikh uncut hair and beard). It also includes an employee's observance of a religious prohibition against wearing certain garments (such as pants or miniskirts).
This is true, Disney had a lawsuit over a case such as this, not sure how it concluded to be honest but I know that in the guidelines of disney it now states that specific religion and saw to talk to the person interviewing you about the matter.
I have also read a number of attempted lawsuits by people like me, it seems most all, if not all, have been dismissed. It was stated that it's hard to win a lawsuit over an issue that a judge and jury do not understand, being that most all of them will fit into the part of the short haired business man.
completely missed this thread lol but y should u cut ur hair? women have long hair. just tie it back.
things r getting rediculous now, discrimination against everything but then theres all these laws saying u cant discriminate lol
things r getting rediculous now, discrimination against everything but then theres all these laws saying u cant discriminate lol
fhawk362;4418902; said:
I have a feeling that Disney doesn't end up the loser in very many lawsuits - it's amazing what a difference a team of high-priced lawyers can make in our legal system...
If you are happy with the job, then congratulations! If the job doesn't turn out so well, I guess your hair will grow back before too long.
Dan Feller;4418924; said:I have a feeling that Disney doesn't end up the loser in very many lawsuits - it's amazing what a difference a team of high-priced lawyers can make in our legal system...
If you are happy with the job, then congratulations! If the job doesn't turn out so well, I guess your hair will grow back before too long.
haha yea, sorry I gave in lol. I figured ill give it a shot, and like you said, worse comes to worse I'll grow it back out.
No it's not right. But that is just the way it is.
I cut my hair off in 1992 and have been more than happy with the jobs I have had since that time.
It sucks not to be able to enjoy the so called personal freedoms that this country likes to pretend is has but the truth is people discriminate on so many levels that you will never stop it. Race, Religion (Or lack of it), color, Hair, Tattoos, Height, Sex, etc..
Best to just blend in and keep your thoughts open and alive. That's the only thing that cannot be taken away from you.
I cut my hair off in 1992 and have been more than happy with the jobs I have had since that time.
It sucks not to be able to enjoy the so called personal freedoms that this country likes to pretend is has but the truth is people discriminate on so many levels that you will never stop it. Race, Religion (Or lack of it), color, Hair, Tattoos, Height, Sex, etc..
Best to just blend in and keep your thoughts open and alive. That's the only thing that cannot be taken away from you.
