Drogo, black arowana grow out thread.

[LukeOscar]

Your a braver man then i am. Theres a video on youtube of a big tiger fish biting the lower jaw off a 2ft arowana. He claimed they had bedn tank mates for a year. I would be to scared to mix the two.


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[Chicxulub]

How do u justify the risk of housing a 200 + dollar fish with an ATF? I don't mean it in a bad way, but I'd be worried. I really want a black one, but they're difficult to get in hawaii. Still keeping an eye out.

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Max is a pussycat. He's been off of live for over six months and all of his predatory aggression and inter-specific aggression is dried up. Max is about 10-11 inches long and will not even attempt to eat bite size fish in the tank such as barbs, silver dollars, danios, balas, labeos and even feeders. My flash zebra catfish is the one who consistently eats all of my dither fish, and Drogo is pretty bad about swallowing up a dither here and there. Max never bothers anyone. For a lack of a better way to describe it, he's tamed.

He is quite capable of handling himself if another fish gives him trouble, as demonstrated by the incident with Drogo a few weeks ago, but he hasn't started a fight in a good eight months. I trust this fish completely.

My main concern with these two is that with how much faster Drogo is growing, he might try to eat Max sometime in the near future lol

Your a braver man then i am. Theres a video on youtube of a big tiger fish biting the lower jaw off a 2ft arowana. He claimed they had bedn tank mates for a year. I would be to scared to mix the two.


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That video is misleading. First, that GATF was in very rough shape. I also doubt that the GATF was much over 18" long. There's no way the aro was over a foot. The only reason that GATF attacked the arowana was out of predatory aggression. I strongly suspect that fish was never properly tamed and he got hungry and went after the spaghettin noodle looking fish swimming around near the surface.

I feel this is very unlikely to happen in my combo because of two factors: First, Drogo is MUCH larger than Max and is growing faster. Its going to be about five years before Max even gets close to catching Drogo in size. Second, Max is one of the most even tempered calm fish I've ever owned. He's perfectly happy to mind his own business and doesn't start fights since he's been tamed.

Thanks for the replies and concern guys. I can understand why you all would be worried about my beautiful $400 (after shipping) arowana living with a toothy torpedo with a nasty reputation!

 

[LukeOscar]

I found the video your reffering to. Its not the same, this arowana was much bigger then the tigerfish. The video showed him swimming around the tank with a lower jaw hanging by a thread. The guy who posted said the arowana died shorty after.

Its your setup, and its badass to say the least. But you and I both know that its a tiger fish. Its not tame. It can turn on a tank mate anytime. I just hope its not that beautiful arowana.


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[Chicxulub]

I found the video your reffering to. Its not the same, this arowana was much bigger then the tigerfish. The video showed him swimming around the tank with a lower jaw hanging by a thread. The guy who posted said the arowana died shorty after.

Its your setup, and its badass to say the least. But you and I both know that its a tiger fish. Its not tame. It can turn on a tank mate anytime. I just hope its not that beautiful arowana.


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Could you be so kind as to post the video in question? I don't believe I'm familiar with the one you describe.

I know a tigerfish will never be truly tame, I just don't know a better word to describe his behavior.

 

[Adamson]

We have all sen the video where the Silver Arowana is being eaten by the gatf but owning a gatf and keeping it in a community setting it really makes me wonder how that would have happened. Of course the ATF will eat anything it can swallow but otherwise they seem pretty tame to me. Not aggressive like cichlids or anything.


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[Chicxulub]

We have all sen the video where the Silver Arowana is being eaten by the gatf but owning a gatf and keeping it in a community setting it really makes me wonder how that would have happened. Of course the ATF will eat anything it can swallow but otherwise they seem pretty tame to me. Not aggressive like cichlids or anything.


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I'm convinced that video was just a poorly cared for fish doing whatever it could to get a meal.

 

[808_fairladyz]

I'm convinced that video was just a poorly cared for fish doing whatever it could to get a meal.

GATF is an apex predator as I'm sure you're aware of, but to claim to train one to be anything else other than an apex predator is like claiming that I convinced my pitbull that he's now a cat. Sure you can keep him well feed to reduce his instinct to hunt to feed, but could you really monitor and or prevent him from mortally damaging or killing your absolutely stunning Black Arowana? I don't want to turned this into a pissing match. I'm just insanely jealous for a fish that I wish I had that you have. You seem to just blow off his 400.00 price tags like a person does with a .50 cent feeder gold fish. It's all good though, what ever floats your boat. You really do have very nice stock of fish. Very nice.

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[Adamson]

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[Bderick67]

I'm convinced that video was just a poorly cared for fish doing whatever it could to get a meal.

No matter what the case, you have to be aware of the power of that ATF. Case in point, occasionally a couple of my arowana will go after the same food simultaneously, one aro gets the food but end ups getting it's face/jaw bit by the other arowana. Not much of a problem with the aro bite, this would not be the case if it happen with the ATF. Not saying it will, but you have to consider all scenarios with dangerous combinations, and decide if it is worth the risk.

My arowana are well fed and cared for, but are aggressive feeders when it comes to doing what they can to get a meal.

 

[Chicxulub]

Wow guys


I'd like to think by now y'all would know that I know better than most what an ATF is capable of. I am very well aware that all I am accomplishing with Max is to keep him fat and happy. I know what they're capable of, I've seen it first hand.. I also monitor their interactions closely and try to figure out when and how to feed them.


To avoid feeding issues, I wait until the lights have been on for a few hours. Drogo will be on the surface like always and Max will be going to town in front of the power heads on the bottom. I'll drop in 4-5 pellets for Drogo who will make a ruckus eating them which gets Max's attention. Max then comes up to the top and will quickly eat a few pellets. They will then take turns grabbing one pellet at a time off of the surface, I time dropping them in so that they can't compete for food.


I'm nervous what would happen if I went mire than a day or two without feeding.


808, I do NOT TAKE Drogo's price tag lightly.

It was and still is something I have trouble accepting and I am terrified of what may happen to him. I've wanted a black aro since I was about 13 and its not something I take lightly in the least. One way or the other though, this combo is working for me. With my experience in tigers, I see no reason to expect that to change. Max hasn't ever really had to compete for food and is not food aggressive.


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EDIT- Also 808, I think your pit bull metaphore is especially well suited to this situation. A pit will never be a cat, but with consistent training and a watchful eye, there's no reason that it can't interact well with other animals.

Max has never needed to hunt, so he doesn't try. If I was to neglect providing for him for a month, I have no doubt he'd find a source of food somewhere in the tank.

I have no plans of neglecting him, however.