Flash Zebra Carapo Knifefish pics

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Miles

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Great Fish! Glad it wen't to a good home :) We will see how it's aggression towards tankmates turns out..

John ~ Thanks for trying to help, but don't you think you should help your customers before you start arrogantly spouting off in MY forum? You do that enough in your own forum for all of us.. I think I can handle my own customers, afterall, I am much more willing to take the time to have superior customer service, unlike yourself.. :)
 

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You should give him a tube to hide in! He will likely feel more comfortable and be more likely to come out and play during feeding time. It was always active, and eventually learned to come out and beg for food any time the store lights were on.. I think it just need some more settle in time :)
 

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Miles he has a tube to hide in and he loves hanging out under my waterfall plus there is a vase in the tank that he frequents most of the time I just got him out to take the pics !



Miles , I must say john had me doubting the idenity of the fish but when i looked it up , i kept coming up with the fish i have ,still its no good for john ! well I beleive the fish is what it is suppose to be , BUT if anyone can prove to me that its not what is is suppose to be shoot it my way !
 

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Gymnotus sp. "Tiger".. un-identified scientifically.

There are a few other Gymnotus that look quite similiar, infact I think there is about 5 species in total that look all very similiar to the FZCK. They all have slight characteristics that makes them different, but contrary to John's identification skills, PATTERN AND COLOR is not a distinction. It is always random, no matter the species. I have had some extensive talks with some knifefish specialists, and very little is know about G. Tiger.. They can be found all over S. America, but in all occasions, it's rare.

Practical Fish Keeping had an Article on Gymnotus Tigre..I will paste it up for yas..

Common name: Tiger knifefish, Macana tigre

Scientific name: Gymnotus sp. "tigre"

Origin: Mainly Colombia. The type specimen was collected in the Amazon at Letitia, but it's also found in the Amazon in Peru and Brazil, in the Rio Tapajos in Brazil and from Ecuador's Rio Pastaza.

Size: Museum records state an adult size of 40cm/16" for G. tigre, but this adult was probably more like 45cm/18". (XAqua has imported one at 18"+)

Diet: Fish and invertebrates.

Aquarium: These electrical fishes are adapted for life in very dark peaty waters which don't even get much light during the day, so make sure the tank is very shady. Furnish the tank with bogwood and use a silver sand substrate. Males of the larger gymnotids can sometimes be aggressive, so be careful about mixing this with similar fish. Robust but placid cichlids, such as Heros, Acarichthys or Geophagus, should be safe tankmates. Given the large adult size, a tank of at least 120cm/4' is required for this fish, preferably much larger.

Breeding: Little is known about Gymnotus. Males of at least two other species in this genus construct and guard floating nests made from aquatic plants and foam, and G. carapo is a mouthbrooder.

Notes: This is quite a recent discovery. It was only described in 2003 by Albert and Crampton along with six other Gymnotus species. This one is a member of the Gymnotus carapo group.

Similar species: There are 26 Gymnotus species, with six in the carapo group: carapo; choco; esmeraldas; henni; paraguensis and tigre.

Identification: According to Albert and and Crampton, the world's experts on the Gymnotidae, there should be a series of pale, yellow bars on the flanks "with high contrast margins which are as broad or broader than brown bands anteriorly". The chin, operculum and under the eyes, should have irregular pale yellow blotches, and the tail end should have a series of oblique hyaline (transparent) and dark stripes on the back end of the anal fin. There should be also 190-240 branched rays in the anal fin, not that you'd be able to count 'em, though...

Availability: This fish was imported from Colombia by Tom Halvorsen Ltd and was the only one in the shipment. It's extremely rare in the trade.
 

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MossOnGrass said:
Miles , I must say john had me doubting the idenity of the fish but when i looked it up , i kept coming up with the fish i have ,still its no good for john ! well I beleive the fish is what it is suppose to be , BUT if anyone can prove to me that its not what is is suppose to be shoot it my way !
Don't listen to him, he usually makes his statements based off, nothing..

What other species was it refered to as? The fisherman, collector, exporter, and importer all agree it to be G. Tigre.. Could be wrong, like I said before, there are alot of similiar Gymnotus that have similiar characteristics, but not nearly as rare is that guy.

Here is a picture of a 'Zebra' Knife that came in with a bag of mixed Carapo knives. Only 2 out of 20 of these knives had this distinct Zebra/Tiger like pattern, while the others were brown carapos and had a broken line pattern. This also had a different mouth structure, and swam differently. Obviously a different species, but not G. Carapo or G. Tiger, that's for sure. BGG used to be very good at ID'ing all the variants in the Flash Zebra Carapo knives (he told me he knew of atleast 4 variants of the G. Tigre, almost all imported under the same name, but different species..) I am unsure of what he said this one was.. Very cool tho!

ZebraKnife.jpg
 

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I have 2 carapo. they are always hidding. in the middle of the night, if you so much as turn on a light a few rooms away and can just make out a faint outline, they dart back into their caves. they both have different markings. the smaler on is a base-yellow, with dark purple stripesevery couple cm that start wide at the beggining but get to thin to touch the top or bottom depending on where the stripe comes from. that it the 7" looks typicat to this:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19153
only the stripes are more defined, but i guess its the light colored substate that caused that difference.the 12 inch has constent stipes or a sligtly dark brown and limestone yellow, separa\ted with thiner black lines. pics tommarow. just need to search for the cable that conects my digital and compter. It's a HP Photosmart E317 5.0 Megapixel. Very good for aquariums

Hey miles, with all these simalar looking knives, do you think it is possibile for a lfs to get in one that has not even been scientifically classified? an unknown species
 

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It was in one of the MFK contests we helped sponser. He won it.
 
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