Guess the brackish water fish

[sandtiger]

Jeeze, don't get upset about it. Here is the fish.

When I refer to second the anal spine I am talking about spines, the sharp ones. The second one in. On the picture abouve you can see them, they look whiter then the rays. Second one is longer.

http://www.mexfish.com/fish/silmojar/silmojar.htm

I actually find it hard to ID fish without knowing spine counts and other things you cannot see unless you are holding the fish. That works for me better then browsing fishbase looking for the same picture that was posted.

 

[guppy]

I am sorry I got frustrated but being miles from any living or preservered specimins I did not find a clue that involved an internal feature to be helpful. I did not post any of the mottled sculpins because they rely on counting gillrakers and the shape of gill arches to tell apart. The spine I am asking about might even be an artifact of photography and looks like (on some fish) a tiny spine just before the first long spine on both dorsals and anal fins.
If I find a listing in any of the data bases I check, like fish base that looks like the fish or if no picture matches a description I cross match it with other listings and if it is one that gives me problems I chase down their references. It is cheaper and quicker than flying to Veracruz but not as much fun.
This is the first time I have seen Mexfish and I just added it to my list. It is apparently a little outdated though because E. dowii is listed as an invalid synonym of E. argenteus, these are the only pics I found other than pics of them in a bucket or being held both hiding the spines, as you can see these pics don't let you count spines either.

 

[sandtiger]

LOL....Shut up and post a fish. Sorry I put you threw so much turmoil

 

[guppy]

Post a pic please,
I'm still happy I figured out it was a mojarra, I have never seen one.

 

[sandtiger]

You want me to post a pic? I was going to let you. Ok, here you go.

 

[guppy]

I can't stay on the computer tonight so I will have to hunt tomorrow, Just because I get frustrated doesn't mean I don't want to play, if you posted fish I knew I would not learn anything.

 

[sandtiger]

Thats true, I was trying to find a difficult one but I suppose that one was a bit hard. I think this one should be easyier. Its hard trying to find a fish that is not to hard but not to easy.

 

[guppy]

I can't search until tomorrow but it looks like a close relative of the violet goby.

 

[guppy]

Between the englongate body and that spearlike chin I should be able ot find this guy but I am not seeing anything close, I give up, what is it?

 

[paintboi101]

thoses things look freaky
but they also are feeders to my turtle lol