heres another cheap diy filter idea

chase45

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haahh. i tried this dude. looks very good in your pic. i used a 4000l/h pump and by god it was a shock to the fish. im just going to buy a canister filter. so simple lol
 

HoangLan

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I don't think it works very well. That tube doesn't have a lot of air in there, so it doesn't promote bacteria to grow (when bacteria digest ammonia and nitrite, it needs oxygen), and scrubies are not very good as a mechanical media. You also don't want to combine mechanical and biological filtration in one (in this case scrubies) b/c when you have to clean the mechanical part, you also cleaning the biological part too, and that's a no no.:cry:
 

Dr Joe

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midnight;1473655; said:
post pix if ya do :)


i think its both
mech is the blue filter stuff
and bio is the scrubbies
right?lol
Correct.

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chase45;1474725; said:
haahh. i tried this dude. looks very good in your pic. i used a 4000l/h pump and by god it was a shock to the fish. im just going to buy a canister filter. so simple lol
Why?

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HoangLan;1478223; said:
I don't think it works very well. That tube doesn't have a lot of air in there, so it doesn't promote bacteria to grow (when bacteria digest ammonia and nitrite, it needs oxygen), and scrubies are not very good as a mechanical media. You also don't want to combine mechanical and biological filtration in one (in this case scrubies) b/c when you have to clean the mechanical part, you also cleaning the biological part too, and that's a no no.:cry:
I don't think you have a good concept of how a sump filter works, in this case, as most, the 'air' (oxygen actually) is carried by the water. At the speed and size of this filter, this will suffice.

Scrubbies aren't being used as a mechanical filter here, they're for the biological.

You always pre-filter a biological filter or the bio-mat with become clogged and in turn kill any bacteria on the bio-mat by suffication

You clean the biological part of a filter by gently rinsing it in used tank water to remove detritus that can accumulate after a time, the bacterial doesn't wash off the biological filter material.

Dr Joe

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Would be a nice little BB transfer filter.
 

D-007

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Bummer that you ditched it as I was going to suggest running airline hose inside it like you did with the 2" PVC DIY filter (except you used a smaller PVC pipe in that one :D)

Also, as for air getting to the bacteria, you could add a non return air valve at say ¼" from the inlet so that air can flow in but water can't flow out.

Just thinking out loud :lol2:
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midnight

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D-007;2415564; said:
Bummer that you ditched it as I was going to suggest running airline hose inside it like you did with the 2" PVC DIY filter (except you used a smaller PVC pipe in that one :D)

Also, as for air getting to the bacteria, you could add a non return air valve at say ¼" from the inlet so that air can flow in but water can't flow out.

Just thinking out loud :lol2:
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try it
thats why i post these posts
maybe someone else can tweak it like i tweaked someone elses idea lol
:D
 

luckydud13

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FIY, the AC media, will get clogged really quicky. I found this out when I came home and found water all over my floor because my filter overflowed.
 

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I use an old gravel syphon, power head and media bag with established gravel or media when setting up a new tank. This isn't pretty but it works well to keep water cycled until a new filter is seeded...

It's a similar concept. :headbang2

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