Lower Jaw variants w/pics

[koltsixx]

The stock and fish selection aren't too bad for a lower jaw. Probably more toward the lapradei side. If they are wild caught then won't too much at all. Competition would be more toward the other fish and against the polys.

I've kept some of the drift wood cats with lower jaw polys without issue. The wood cats were much bolder than the polys.

The concern would be the pikes though but the others would be fine. See what the other members say.

My Auchenipteridae are Trachy trachy and a undientified Trachycorystes species as well as Galeatus all of which are monsters when it comes to food. They home in on it as if they where heat seeking missiles and have no issue headbutting and ramming competing fish away from said food. Even the Crenicichla have to fight hard to get their fair share since the Auch's eat at the surface, mid and lower levels. Where ever the food is they go and in a frenzy.

Thanks again kno4te you've really been a lot of help here and in my catfish thread.

Loving this thread! This is so what I wanted back when I first started coming in here. (Also, I didn't know there was a White Volta...)

Does anyone have a straight list with all of the variations or is that just crazy to ask for?

koltsixx - I agree that this is sticky-worthy. I also agree that we have some outdated stickies up top and it could probably use some refreshing. Still some keepers up there for sure though.

magpie I'm going to have to look into the stickies and see what I can do. Right now there's so many of them and I imagine some of the info is outdated. They would really benefit if some of the stickies could be streamlined possibly merged together to make locating info easier. Plus it would help make room for new stickies with updated info and pics which IMO would be a valuable addition to this section. It would be quite an undertaking though and would be a slow process. Still I'm going to do my best to look into it and see what I can do.

 

[Vancouver_98683]

'Faranah Dabola' unknown specie from Faranah Region, Guniea

 

[Vancouver_98683]

Polypterus sp. Congicus - Congo River Tributaries

 

[clm08k]

Polypterus Endlicheri 'Tank Raised/Farmed Singapore'

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3rd pic= congi hybrid?
4th pic= dabola?

could we see a side by side comparing the patterns?

Congicus #1
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Same fish different substrate
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looks like two different fish. wow~ I didn't know congis could have patterns or dark coloration. For some reason I thought they were all pale looking and lighter.

 

[clm08k]

'Faranah Dabola' unknown specie from Faranah Region, Guniea

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Polypterus sp. Congicus - Congo River Tributaries

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what is the difference between the two?

 

[clm08k]

Captive bred endlicheri
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Actually really like the markings and dark coloration of this CB endli!

what are the giveaways that this one is CB?

 

[Vancouver_98683]

3rd pic= congi hybrid?
4th pic= dabola?

could we see a side by side comparing the patterns?

1 & 3 is same. #3 was washed out and turned light. Its a tank raised endli with a semi short body frame. (Captive bred)

2 & 4 is same fish with different markings per side. Tank raised endli (captive bred)

Here's a the collage again.

 

[clm08k]

Thanks for all the info. J jaws7777 !! And the warm welcome that's been extended by you and the rest of the guys. Sorry for not responding sooner I was really busy. I plan on studying your posts and pics as while I'm sure some of this info is in other threads the way it's laid out here makes it IMO easy to follow for someone uninitiated into the various kinds of Lower Jaw Poly regional variants.

I still have some questions though, so I can make sure I'm understanding correctly. First from what I'm understanding most of the lower jaw Polys are being imported from three locations. Faranah and Dabola in Guinea and the Black Volta river in Ghana. The Dabola name referencing the city and the portion of the Tinikisso River that runs near it. And the Faranah location refers to a region of the Niger River that runs close to the Faranah town and sub-prefecture. While Black Volta, White Volta and Red Volta run along the upper portion of Ghana. Correct?

And the Polys from said rivers are all Endli and Lap? Or are there other species collected in those locations? Also I believe my last purchase from Toyin was labeled as a Nigerian Lap. Which I assume is just a Lap collected in Nigeria? Any info. if thers is any on distinguishing characteristics?

Distinguishing characteristics include flattened heads which are most prominent in Faranah with Dabola following closely behind and with Volta having the most boxish face and thick banding. Differentiating between Dabola and Faranah can be further seen in their pattern. With the Faranahs pattern extending further down toward the belly. Correct?

Again Thanks for the info. hopefully I understood it correctly.

thank you for posting this! IDing and catch locations is something I struggle with too. Everyone here is really good about mentioning the characteristics and giving pictures. Not to mention really patient and helpful. Now I'm able to tell at least ID a dabola from the other endlis( sometimes lol)
Glad to have you aboard the poly wagon!

 

[jaws7777]

3rd pic= congi hybrid?
4th pic= dabola?

could we see a side by side comparing the patterns?

looks like two different fish. wow~ I didn't know congis could have patterns or dark coloration. For some reason I thought they were all pale looking and lighter.

I thought the same. This thread is helping me too. I either dont have the patience or the eyes for picking up on smaller details. The two congi are so different that i wss trying to figure out if they came from two different catch locations. But after the lighter one adjusted to tb new sand hao pointed out he two racing stripes on the top of the head indicating it came from the Congo and not Lake Tanganyika in Zambia.

 

[clm08k]

1 & 3 is same. #3 was washed out and turned light. Its a tank raised endli with a semi short body frame. (Captive bred)

2 & 4 is same fish with different markings per side. Tank raised endli (captive bred)

Here's a the collage again.

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THANK YOU! Can definitely see that now. P.S. your collages really showcase the polys side by side with their lateral markings. very helpful!

 

[jaws7777]

Actually really like the markings and dark coloration of this CB endli!

what are the giveaways that this one is CB?

I guess its mostly the patterns are not as defined kind of fuzzy or blurred towards the edges.

The others can tell you better about cb endli i think sometimes they have frogish type eyes if they are from a weak gene pool