• We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo

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As you can see above, the main leak on the 90 remains, I think the biggest problem I've got now is vortex 3 will not spin to move the media, the pump although rated at 2000 gph is simply not big enough to move this amount of water through a filter system of this size, as the video shows. Vortex one is the only one that spins, great as a settling chamber as planned and works a treat but once it's passed through that the effect lessens to the extent that it just will not flow enough in 3.

Larger pump is almost certainly required but testing will need to be done first to see if it works and significantly increases the throughput. Fingers crossed the guy at the koi place near me will lend me one to try out
 
If all you need is more water movement in #3, then maybe a small pump and a jet nozzle down near the vortex...it doesnt have to return anything just for circulation of the K in the filter...
I thought you mentioned you were going to have to get a bigger one...this way all you have to spend on is enough pump for the ammount of turnover on the pond...

As far as that tiny drip...rubber wrap it and be done with it...there is no pressure there...;););)
 
Yanbbrox;2281863; said:
^^

As you can see above, the main leak on the 90 remains, I think the biggest problem I've got now is vortex 3 will not spin to move the media, the pump although rated at 2000 gph is simply not big enough to move this amount of water through a filter system of this size, as the video shows. Vortex one is the only one that spins, great as a settling chamber as planned and works a treat but once it's passed through that the effect lessens to the extent that it just will not flow enough in 3.

Larger pump is almost certainly required but testing will need to be done first to see if it works and significantly increases the throughput. Fingers crossed the guy at the koi place near me will lend me one to try out
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You know now I'm confused didn't you tell me that this filteration system was based on Gravity.

All these troubles your having are do to the lack on gravity and atmosph on that side of the pond.

If your going to build a system that runs on gravity you need the filter to be lower than the pond, not level with it, unless you used a step configuration with a pump for the return.
:popcorn:

Just sit'n back watching you try an kill yourself is still kinda cool in it's own way.
 
greengiant;2281970; said:
bum for Zenn

Looks like big progress I wish you luck on finding a big pump. the progress you have made is inspiring and soon you will be able to say to Mrs Y. go get the koi lol

I will keep watching I love this project
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Thanks, Mrs Y spent an hour to get over the leak today and just leave it;)

zennzzo;2282179; said:
If all you need is more water movement in #3, then maybe a small pump and a jet nozzle down near the vortex...it doesnt have to return anything just for circulation of the K in the filter...
I thought you mentioned you were going to have to get a bigger one...this way all you have to spend on is enough pump for the ammount of turnover on the pond...

As far as that tiny drip...rubber wrap it and be done with it...there is no pressure there...;););)
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Thought of doing that maybe a mini powerhead or something could work.

Was going to but the local tyre place was shut when I passed


Tequila;2282314; said:
You know now I'm confused didn't you tell me that this filteration system was based on Gravity.
Strange everyone else noticed;)

All these troubles your having are do to the lack on gravity and atmosph on that side of the pond.

If your going to build a system that runs on gravity you need the filter to be lower than the pond, not level with it, unless you used a step configuration with a pump for the return.
:popcorn:
Have you been paying no attention at all:confused:

Just sit'n back watching you try an kill yourself is still kinda cool in it's own way.
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I thought as much, now where is my miracle leak cure?:ROFL:
 
As soon as you get a pump that will remove enough water at a rate that will allow gravity to work then T might see why it's called a gravity system...

When you first pulled open that valve, was the water flowing fast enough to move the K1 around, till it reached equilibrium?

If you get a "powerhead" pump in there to spin/perculate the media and you might be able to remove the air pumped into that vortex, you might also be able to ommit that basket as well...
Then maybe put a strainer on the intake pipe of the bigger pump??

Just throwing out some ideas...:D
 
vortex 3 will not spin to move the media,
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Do you have the air under it yet? Does the k1 need to spin or just stay fluidized as the air bounces it around? I have read running you want just enough air pushing past to keep it moving, and also that it will fluidize a little better as the biofilm covers it. I don't have have any first hand experience with it though.

Also think about sizing your larger pump to your first vortex which is your SC, too much flow and the solids may not settle. I have read rough guideline is 10x turnover for a round SC.
 
i see you are going through another hurdle... and i am here to tell you..you will jump through this hoop too.. do not dispair..
 
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