Nitrate Reduction Setup!

West1

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Looks good. The only thing that worries me is the Outlet right behind the Bin.
I'm sure you see it and know how you set your set-up up. I just always leave room for failure (to try to close any gaps on failure) and am very alarmed from that situation.
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Oh yea I know what you are saying. I was thinking off attaching a plastic barrier to the back of the bin as to prevent just that problem and splatter/moisture on the drywall. I also may drop the output tube a few more inches and have it run through a hole in the side of the bin. This should help keep all the water within the bin.
 

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1. Its not a filter
2. its not a detailed drawing

it just transports water to the bin so that the plants can process it.

However I will have mechanical filtration that will keep crap out of the pump and large things from going through the overflow.
 

Raul-7

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Are you going to design some sort of buffering system to maximize the time the water stays in the plant-filter?

BTW, your signature is brilliant.
 

mrgrackle

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check this out, you'll really like it. It's a method of growing food (or plants in general) from fish effluent. www.backyardaquaponics.com You don't do water changes... in a well running aquaponics system the biological filtration resembles what's going on in nature. I'd drink the water in my aquaponics system over what comes out of the tap :)

You mentioned that your system is inside. You'll need some good light to keep plants thriving enough to remove ammonia, nitrite and nitrate from the water in any measurable amounts.

Anyways, here's a picture of my aquaponic aquarium.



The pot on top the aquarium is filled with gravel and there's a bell siphon buried in there. That tiny pump fills the pot up with water. Once the pot is full, the bell siphon will kick in and drain the pot. This sucks air down into the gravel which has a lot of surface area. This oxygenates the water very well.

The constant agitation of raising and lowering water in the gravel will break up any debris that gets pumped into the pot. Bacteria in the gravel converts the ammonia into nitrite then other bacteria convert the nitrite to nitrate. The plant on top sucks up the nutrients. I've also got some red wiggler worms in the gravel and they'll also eat up any solids that end up in there.

My set up works alright. There's no ammonia or nitrite detectable in the water, it's 7.5ph but my nitrates are pretty high. Problems with it are... the plant is a pothos, it's not really a high nutrient user. It's in a north facing window and doesn't get nearly enough light. The pump would probably be better if I had it along the bottom of the tank. I think if I had more light and a heavier feeder of a plant the nitrates would be undetectable as well.
 

Mystix212

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Im not sure how well the plants you ordered suck up the nitrates, but Elodea/Anachris, Hornwort and floating plants really clean your tank up. Are you going to pack it just choc-o-block full of plants with 1-3 light fixtures?
 

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Raul-7;1411523; said:
Are you going to design some sort of buffering system to maximize the time the water stays in the plant-filter?

BTW, your signature is brilliant.
Well at the moment i just have a real slow pump that pumps water back to the main tank. It works great so far but i dont have any plants in the system yet. My mangroves haven't arrived but im hoping they will soon. Im not sure what the advantage of the super slow water exchange would have as I would think although it may output higher nitrate water than a slow moving system it should still in the end process the same amount of nitrate. I may be wrong.

Im going to have the water run through a modified wet/dry before it enters the refugium.

I have to admit my fish do really love goldfish! ha ha much more than I do
 

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mrgrackle;1411851; said:
check this out, you'll really like it. It's a method of growing food (or plants in general) from fish effluent. www.backyardaquaponics.com You don't do water changes... in a well running aquaponics system the biological filtration resembles what's going on in nature. I'd drink the water in my aquaponics system over what comes out of the tap :)

You mentioned that your system is inside. You'll need some good light to keep plants thriving enough to remove ammonia, nitrite and nitrate from the water in any measurable amounts.

Anyways, here's a picture of my aquaponic aquarium.



The pot on top the aquarium is filled with gravel and there's a bell siphon buried in there. That tiny pump fills the pot up with water. Once the pot is full, the bell siphon will kick in and drain the pot. This sucks air down into the gravel which has a lot of surface area. This oxygenates the water very well.

The constant agitation of raising and lowering water in the gravel will break up any debris that gets pumped into the pot. Bacteria in the gravel converts the ammonia into nitrite then other bacteria convert the nitrite to nitrate. The plant on top sucks up the nutrients. I've also got some red wiggler worms in the gravel and they'll also eat up any solids that end up in there.

My set up works alright. There's no ammonia or nitrite detectable in the water, it's 7.5ph but my nitrates are pretty high. Problems with it are... the plant is a pothos, it's not really a high nutrient user. It's in a north facing window and doesn't get nearly enough light. The pump would probably be better if I had it along the bottom of the tank. I think if I had more light and a heavier feeder of a plant the nitrates would be undetectable as well.
Cool system. Mine will work on the same principal except have about 40 plants! Yours is quite ingenious though with its simplicity!
 

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Piranha
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Mystix212;1411995; said:
Im not sure how well the plants you ordered suck up the nitrates, but Elodea/Anachris, Hornwort and floating plants really clean your tank up. Are you going to pack it just choc-o-block full of plants with 1-3 light fixtures?

Yea ive read that they suck up nitrates like no other and that they do little to nothing...So im hoping for the best but in the end they will still be cool. And yes im going to fill it FULL of plants and hopefully have several types of lighting (so far I have a 120 watt incandescent grow bulb) to cover all the bases. I have some water lettuce that Im going to throw in there to which is a floating plant. My main problem is getting a hold of plants in bulk...so far ebay is my only provider as the plant stores around here only carry these in the summer and my LFS want to charge me an arm and a leg just to fill it up half way. The 21 red mangroves should really help though!
 
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